To be annoyed about my neighbours complaining

[BuzzingtheBee]

About my children playing in the garden? And us playing music over the bank holiday weekend (not loud)? The children only play out when its nice weather so not that much, I’m happy they are outside and not stucknto ipads etc!

And I'm sure the posters above are totally gangsta rap playing drug dealers too. There's a world of difference between blaring music out all day or at anti social times, and having some low level music on the speaker while having a glass of wine and a sausage sanga with the family. The point of including lawnmowers and people talking, dogs barking etc, with some moderate music is that they're all sounds of people living their lives. They're all perfectly legal and normal, and to be expected when you live amongst people. Some seem to be rather bitter that the coppers would politely tell you to do one if you tried to complain about Susan and her toddlers next door dancing to some ABBA in her garden at 1500hrs! Because it's normal.

And uk beaches on bank/school holidays make me 🤢, and the contrast to what I live with here is astounding, which is probably why I've mentioned it twice. Now that(!) is antisocial. Playing some quiet music with your mates and a badminton set, not so much.

(I only referenced beaches because it was brought up upthread for those who haven't rtft).

Not normal in my neighbourhood thankfully. So glad I live where I do.

The English beach I visit is heaven. Peaceful quiet beautiful. Mercifully free of teenagers playing volleyball with tinny shit music playing through their speakers.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-bondi-beach-to-be-closed-after-beachgoers-ignored-social-distancing-orders/news-story/308b17193e93e7a52f07f22037948c0b

Yeah the Australian lifestyle is so respectful of others, no one would consider upsetting anyone else, just killing them by spreading a deadly virus. Now that makes me fell 🤢!

@hesgotit

Not sure what that has to do with playing music in public, but if we are going down that route 🤢🤷🏼‍♀️

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-break-rules-sunbathing-parks-warnings-a9448216.html

It was your more waxing lyrical about how perfect Australia is with no vomiting teenagers, just pointing out that they're not perfect by any means!

We all live comfortably together, we rub along well, no problems. Yeah right oh!

I agree with you wherethefuck - your take on this is synonymous with mine, even though I live in Scotland not Australia.
I posted earlier in the thread to express much the same. I don’t mind the neighbours’ music, bonfire, bbq, get-together, party, whatever...and they don’t mind ours. It’s all in moderation...just people living their lives, enjoying their garden, minding their own business.
There really are some joyless souls posting here.
SO glad it doesn’t reflect my neighbourhood.

@wherethefuckismyfuckingcoat

I like your attitude - exactly what I've been trying to say. Yes consideration is important but also tolerance.

What do people think about the Italians singing off their balconies? That was generally accepted as a great, community spirited thing.

The poster below who "reached for popcorn" to sit and watch people talking about a subject they thought petty and then slated the posters for being sad and have nothing better to do than watch a thread.... erm... I'm not quite sure how to process that level of contradiction

Hi pictish, I seem to remember waaay back that we haven't always held the same views. That's the nice thing about being an adult, you can agree on some things and disagree on others, and it's all very amicable. It's the whole live and let live attitude that I'm referencing on this thread.

Unfortunately to some, you and I seem to have been labelled as lower class chavs, likened to drug dealers and even viewed as less welcome to have as neighbours than a dope smoking junkie who passes out in his yard. law abiding ex copper here and now front line emergency service worker.

I used to live in Scotland and I reckon you'd have been a pretty sound neighbour

There's a bit too much superiority creeping onto this thread ...

What, more superiority than hyacinth bucket upthread moaning about the unfortunate middle classes having to live beside the yukky lowers??

I say that like it's unusual, but unfortunately it's becoming more and more common on here. As if by trying to belittle a poster, or a place, somehow gives the upper hand and 'wins' the debate. It's really unpleasant.

You're exactly right, @HarrySnotter, there has been a whole lot of unpleasant belittling towards people who just want to live their lives, in the best way they can during these times, enjoying some quiet music with their children and families in their own garden. A perfectly normal and legal activity. It's pretty disgusting.

Sorry @WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat I thought I read you generalising about teenagers in the UK vomiting everywhere and how it's not like that in Australia? That's pretty ridiculous and rude to teenagers in the uk?

And uk beaches on bank/school holidays make me 🤢, and the contrast to what I live with here is astounding, which is probably why I've mentioned it twice. Now that(!) is antisocial. Playing some quiet music with your mates and a badminton set, not so much.

And for the people who would just hate Australia, it's simple, don't live here. I happen to love my life here, doesn't mean I expect anyone else to . I much prefer my beaches without hoards of pissed up vomiting teenagers on sunny days. Gimme volleyball playing (moderate!) music listeners all day long over that. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Just to remind you how insulting you were, not to mention wrong!

I find the kids playing out more annoying than the music. They seem to need to scream - actually scream - and yell at each other contstantly in time to the endless squeak of the sodding trampoline. Dont bother flaming me on this one, I know I'm a grumpy old woman and dont care!

Maybe it's to do with how packed in everyone is. If your gardens are big and there is more sense of space maybe you can handle a bit of music from across the way. If not, then it can feel incredibly claustrophobic being forced to listen to other peoples music tastes. Italians singing off balconies has got nothing to do with it. It's a rare event and would be amazing!

@hesgotit - I specifically brought up the beach thing because someone upthread did. Said that any music played by anyone on a beach is hugely antisocial.

I've been in Australia for nearly a decade now, and not once have me or my young family felt intimidated by youths on a beach. The first time a bunch of youths rocked up, I got anxious and wanted to move. But all they did was set up their towels then pop off to set up a game of beach volleyball with their Bluetooth speaker, coming back now and again for a rest. One of them lit up a cig and immediately put it out when his mate pointed out my kids.

Unfortunately, in contrast, I've had many many horrific experiences on uk beaches with pissed teenagers, anti social drinking and smoking families, swearing and fighting, and yes, vomiting. I've experienced this in a personal and a professional capacity. I'm not tarring all uk youths with the same brush, and anecdotes don't equal data, but my experiences (and news reports etc) back up the fact.

Sorry for the essay, but my point was that I know which one I find antisocial and it's not the music.

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat I'm glad you agree and acknowledge what I mean, perhaps some posters (if they recognise themselves in my post of course) will consider that it's really not the best way to conduct themselves.

Oh. It appears not.

Wherethefuckismyfuckinggoat

I am glad you are loving Australia. I spent most of my life so far there and you are right that backyard are well used. I also need to point out, as have others, that backyards are generally larger. And houses are often one storey, maybe with a 6 ft fence (wood or colourbond) so the sound from three doors down might not interrupt someone as much in their house as I find it does here in London with a postage stamp back yard and a couple of storeys.

I also note you are writing this from somewhere that obviously has quite a bit of space as ‘the horses in the paddock next to us’. (Maybe you are on the edge of a suburb or back onto a rural block or acreage). I get that you are making the comparison between the two countries but it isn’t really comparing like for like by the sounds.

I lived a good chunk of my time in Sydney’s inner west and backyard noise pollution was an issue In those tightly packed street (if you could hear over the 747’s that was) compared to anywhere else I lived where the yards were huge in comparison.

‘Sounds of it.’

Don’t listen to all the Pearl clutches on here Op who wouldn’t know fun if it slapped them in the face, they are probably going to call you an alcoholic if you have half a light beer. As long as the music isn’t too loud I don’t see a problem.

The ones that cant see the problem are the problem.

I can tolerate really low volume background level music, even if its shit, during the day and early evening as long as I can't still hear it in the house.
An old neighbour used to listen to the cricket when gardening, low volume, I used to like that noise even though I had no idea what was actually happening in the game

As long as the music isn’t too loud I don’t see a problem.

As long as the neighbours can't hear your music I don't see a problem.

There, I've corrected that for you.