To be annoyed about my neighbours complaining

[BuzzingtheBee]

About my children playing in the garden? And us playing music over the bank holiday weekend (not loud)? The children only play out when its nice weather so not that much, I’m happy they are outside and not stucknto ipads etc!

Are you really finding it that amusing?

It is the bile behind the comment that amused me and the escalating venom - meow!!

Not admiration to clarify! Sad to descend to such depths on such a petty subject imo, but also funny spectator sport.

My neighbours blasted out their crappy music this weekend. So I got out my stereo and turned my music on at top volume to drown their music out. They got the message and turned it down.

@FortunesFavour but there are people here saying they shouldn’t ever have to hear even low level background music. Please reread the thread.
I completely agree that blasting very loud music is antisocial and inconsiderate...as I’m sure do most people here.

Grabs popcorn 🍿 this thread has descended into a laughable bun fight! Has it made the Daily Mail yet? Now that's an achievement!

Why are certain silly posters here (you know who you are btw) wasting such time and energy on something like this? You really need to grow up, act your age and maybe do something productive like some Spring cleaning - instead of waiting for the latest notifications on whether it's bad etiquette to play music in your garden 🤣🤣

Never has reading a Mumsnet thread made me happier to live in Australia, where bbqs and backyard fires (except when TFB is in place due to bushfires) are a daily occurrence. Where it is commonplace to hear children playing and shouting, or splashing in the pool. Where people just seem to live and let live. Ooh, the neighbours are having a barbie and playing some music, sounds nice, might get some steak in tomorrow and have one myself. Where earplugs are a thing for shiftworkers like myself.

Where the beaches in normal times are full of groups of teens and adults alike, playing volleyball and listening to their Bluetooth speakers. Considerate of the families playing nearby with their own little radios or speakers. Not a violent pissed up yob in sight, vomiting shitting and pissing everywhere and having to be rounded up like the thugs that they are by the police and escorted away. Where people who want some peace move their book towel and umbrella to a less populated part and chill for a few hours.

Suddenly I don't miss the uk at all with all the uptightness and intolerance for other people.

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat you've summed it up perfectly, I agree with all of that!

Thank you @Butterfly98 , it just all sounds so hateful. If people want silence, they need to not live near other people. Tolerance is essential for built up cities and suburbs. And community spirit. If silence is what's wanted, then living in these places isn't practical.

And fwiw, neither me, nor any of my neighbours or friends are 'chavs' (eeurggh) or lower class - what a snobby elitist attitude.

Children - YANBU, unless they are arguing/screeching constantly.
Music- YABVU, Music playing outside in people's gardens is annoying, selfish and inconsiderate.

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat yes I hate the word 'chav' as well! Anyone who uses it to look down on others are a perfect example of what 'chav' is! Hence they're as common as muck for thinking they're better in the first place 🤣🤣🤣

Loud music outside is noise pollution. You wouldn’t chuck your rubbish over a neighbour’s fence so why make them listen to what you want to play?!

Some might need to work or have babies who need to sleep. Importantly, at the moment, some may be ill and really need peace to rest and recover.

If everyone played loud music, neighbourhoods would just become a cacophony.

France has very strict anti noise laws and many do call the police (who willingly come). I would be happy to have that here.

Well as ex police (uk), I can categorically confirm that when people complained about music playing during daylight hours, they were politely told that no offence was being committed, and unless if it was proven to be part of a campaign of harassment, or extreme or excessive, absolutely NO action would be taken. And quite rightly so.

WhereThwFuck,

You have it arse-about-tit. If people need loud outdoor music, THEY should arrange to live miles away from anyone.

For the majority of city dwellers, who cannot afford large detached houses (which start around 4 million where I am), we all need to respect our neighbours’ rights to enjoy their own homes.

I disagree. If you live beside people, expect a certain level of noise, whether that be children, moderate music, pets, cars, DIY, gardening, life really. Consideration for others is essential, but so is tolerance. That's why there are laws that state that these noises are perfectly acceptable within certain hours, and not acceptable out with those hours.

The only way you can expect silence is if you don't have anyone around you.

Never have I been so glad I don’t live in Australia. Sounds bloody awful.

For once I agree with Larry 😁

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat sounds lovely (and pretty much like my road in the U.K. to be honest! ).

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat, there is something called noise pollution, yes, pollution for a reason. It is recognised that constant noise over a certain level is a huge factor to added stress in daily life.

So many everyone does it in Australia, then again, I would expect the average garden size is much larger than those in the UK, but it might also very much contribute to people feeling stressed, anxious and struggling to sleep, which I don't think Australian people are immune off.

Saying that, if it really is the norm in Australia, it's one more reason why I wouldn't like it down there at all.

It is virtually a 70/30 split in favour of ‘no outdoor music’. I think that is especially true right now, when people are pretty much prisoners in their own homes and some may be sick or recovering.

I think that it is tremendously stressful to not feel in control of the one thing that you should be able to control (your own house). Having to close the windows to focus on a bit of work in a beautiful day and still hearing the repetitive thud thud thud of a repetitive electronic background beat is very tough.

I think that some in favour live in very friendly streets/developments where they could ask the neighbour to turn it down as they are resting/need to work and the neighbour would smile and oblige. They still have some control over their environment

And the type of music does matter. Bass travels through windows and walls far better than higher notes, which is why, even closing windows, you still hear just the beat. Many people use classical music or melodic jazz to relax to, no one uses house or similar.

But at no time did I mention 'loud' music, in fact I've said a couple of times 'moderate'. And moderate music isn't classed as a noise pollution, and from reading the comments of most people on here who like to play a bit of music in their gardens, they've specifically said they're playing it at an acceptable level.

As an aside, it's 1603hrs here just now and I was supposed to be nightshift tonight. I'm sitting outside and I can currently hear - a lawnmower somewhere, my children laughing and splashing in the pool, someone else's child over the back playing with a remote control car of some sort (in their yard), birds, the horses in the paddock next to us, two men talking. Someone's dog barking, and very faint music, no idea where from. None of this is noise pollution, nor is it inconsiderate. I wanted to live in a suburb, you know, beside people. If I wanted radio silence I could have actually gotten a cheaper property in the sticks.

And for the people who would just hate Australia, it's simple, don't live here. I happen to love my life here, doesn't mean I expect anyone else to . I much prefer my beaches without hoards of pissed up vomiting teenagers on sunny days. Gimme volleyball playing (moderate!) music listeners all day long over that. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat I don't think anyone said they expect 'silence'. Did they? I think most people do expect consideration though.

I much prefer my beaches without hoards of pissed up vomiting teenagers on sunny days.

Yes, that's exactly what every beach on the UK is like isn't it ... 🤣🤣🤣

Why do you keep banging on about vomiting teenagers?🙄

Larry is right. Living next door to gangsta rap playing drug dealers in our first flat was vile. It felt threatening whenever we used our garden especially as we had just had our first baby. It ruined our peace of mind. We moved.

It's so weird that some people don't understand that hearing a lawnmower/all other 'usual' noises you may hear outside and hearing someone else's taste in music are completely different things. It can be repeated ad finitum, it's still different.