To suggest book sharing amongstDD’s classmates

[Bringringbring12]

We’ve run out of books. Already! Because DD an absolute book worm. I can’t justify spending loads on new books and libraries closed.

WIBU to suggest on class watsapp group that we set up a book share system? On the understanding that books are are thoroughly cleaned, wrapped in bag and left on doorstep?

It’s a small class of 15, all nice and considerate (none of the “bitchy” glares, cliques and high drama I read about in the world of mumsnet).

Thanks

I also think people ideas of leaving books for a few days etc make no sense as no one knows enough about this virus. What make them the expert

Of course we aren't, but the research so far says that it can exist for 24 hours on cardboard, so people suggested a couple of days before opening. Are you disinfecting every item that enters your home? What about packaged goods, given that there are workers packaging these, rarely wearing PPE as there's none to be had? It's certainly far safer than buying a takeaway that is cooked and delivered by low income workers who don't have protection and who will need to show up to work unless half way dead due to crappy employment protection.

I hope that everyone being horrible to OP on this thread is similarly rude to anyone they meet who's bought anything from Amazon, or anything that wasn't nutritionally required to sustain life from the supermarket....

drspouse why are you even on mumsnet? Why join this group if you feel the need to slam the group generally. Perhaps you should think about leaving if you are so put off by us all.

Stuckforthefourthtime what research? Can you send links? No one is coming up with the evidence or research when I ask what they are referring to exactly?

roseberryjuice www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces

There's also the original research available online

I don't think bbc stories warrant accurate research - I mean link me to published medical papers by medical professionals. A media outlet has their own agenda and it's not the distribution of accurate medical research. Do you make your choices in life because the bbc told you so?

@Roseberryjuice because there are quite a lot of people who are not scaremongers and who suggest positive solutions, like leaving books for the time that science has found out it takes the virus to die.

Roseberryjuice are you this rude to people you meet in person? Like I said, the original research is available online and DH and I - one with a science degree and one a HCP - looked at it and found it reasonable. The BBC was the first reference I got when I just googled it, so I mentioned the full paper is available and trusted that if you are this invested, you can go searching for it yourself. If that's not possible for you, then you're definitely not the person to be telling others how to live their lives on here

Sorry OP for the detail!

And there is a link to the NEJM article in the BBC article.

We are doing book swaps with kids in my daughters class who live on our street. All get bagged and set aside on thursday and we swap on sunday

Your approach is entirely sane and reasonable OP. Mumsnet is batshit crazy right now.

I've been thinking about this too. My dd is also a book eating monster! We have got a kindle but she, nor I can really get on with it. She would rather not read at all.than read on the kindle.
I thought the same as you, books that have been on the shelf for months. Left on the doorstep.
I've had some books delivered from Amazon this week and I'm leaving them in the box for a week just incase. But then I'm not being that fussy over the food shopping that I'm putting in the cupboard.

To be completely honest I am a really nice person in real life - probably too nice but I have been quite riled by how some people are behaving during this epidemic my own family included. I think it's completely unfair that front line NHS staff are working so hard to fight this and we are being asked by the government, nurses and doctors to stay home but people are trying so hard to bend this. I challenge people on things like book exchanges because I truly believe that it is not in the community spirit to do anything non essential and I feel that people need to learn to go without for the greater good. I have no bread right now but I will be ok without it for a few days. The books can probably wait.

Also where have I been rude here - I called book swapping stupid. That was about all from what I can see? I just challenged people - that's not being rude?

I don't see why not if you can drop the books off / pick them up as part of your daily exercise. If you are concerned about the virus being on the books you can leave them for a few days before opening them.
Kindles often don't work with the library online services so if you do want to use that service it might be worth checking which e readers are compatible.
I wouldn't be keen to let a 7 year old to go to bed reading on a phone or tablet.

@roseberryjuice a "really nice person in real life" doesn't usually say things like "Do you make your choices in life because the bbc told you so?".

When you said no-one was linking you to the actual science, when the link to the journal was in the article AND referenced in the post, it makes you look like you are just here to shout at people, so got straight back with an insult without bothering to fully read the article or the post. We're all scared, and it seems to be making some people turn into volunteer police, and it's not healthy (or if it's not that, then you just aren't hot on reading comprehension 🤷🏼‍♀️).

It's ok for us to disagree about things, but calling people's ideas stupid is never a good way to win converts.

Roseberry You sound like a very caring person to me, who just wants people to obey the lockdown rules to protect NHS staff - that's my view as well - but apparently it's not rude to call people rude, horrible and batshit crazy for suggesting people follow the rules.

Thank you Koalas yes I am a very kind person and I am told so often. My heart is in the right place with this. Yes I am being very direct in what I am saying to people and I slipped up with the 'stupid' connect but thank you for seeing where I am coming from. I think that unless we challenge people's behaviour then people will continue to think it's ok to do non essential things and our NHS are practically begging people to stop doing things like this.

Now is response to this comment I made that I have pasted below - the statement is a not rude at all. It is a challenge. It is asking you a question? Do you make your choices in life because of what you read in the media. This is not rude.

@roseberryjuice a "really nice person in real life" doesn't usually say things like "Do you make your choices in life because the bbc told you so?".

Stuckforthefourth you seem to be implying I am all sorts of things which is the same behaviour that you are accusing me of? You come across as the person that is 'shouting' here?

@itsasmallworldafterall You're welcome 😘

I wonder why they had to close the librarys??!!?? 🙄 I guess some people will never get it (or was this a stealth boast thread about v. V. V. V. Clever children?)

and I slipped up with the 'stupid' connect

You really really didn’t. Your comment was absolutely fine.

It's ok for us to disagree about things, but calling people's ideas stupid is never a good way to win converts.

If they’re stupid ideas- it’s ok to call them stupid.

Libraries were closed because people gather together in them. Not because of dangerous books.

drspouse library's were closed because the virus can be spread by sharing books it is also an unnecessary outing, but I'm guessing rules don't apply to you?

"libraries" darn auto-correct!

Our school sent out library books home to children to read just as we went into lockdown.. we are all fit and well.
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