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Shielded Groups should stay home and we should all get back out there?

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moreginplease81 · 04/04/2020 11:07

Aibu to think shielded groups should stay home and we should all just get back out there and carry on?

The economy is going to be on its knees!

If you can work, you should be allowed to.

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SylvanianFrenemies · 04/04/2020 11:39

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iVampire · 04/04/2020 11:39

I don’t think people have really thought about how much worse an uncontrolled spike would be

Both in cost of lives and utter destruction of both NHS and economy - because the numbers ill and dead would bring absolutely everything to a halt for 6 weeks or longer, with more deaths and more business and service failures.

Horrible prospect

Zilla1 · 04/04/2020 11:40

Regarding the non-economic effects (though the following deaths will have economic effects too), the deaths aren't only going to be the elderly/shielded, as we've seen, they'll be the young, healthy adults and HCPs currently being thrown under a bus with no PPE (despite what the UK government says about PPE even though the media seem to be picking at those historical statements). By the way, you might recognise the stink of spin about PPE - there isn't and hasn't been enough/correct/unexpired with a comedy sticker over the date until someone lifts the sticker, but let's raise PPE standards to the 'world's best' - we don't need to raise PPE standards, just to have PPE that meets the adequate standards.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 04/04/2020 11:41

Don’t be an idiot OP.

MH1111 · 04/04/2020 11:47

The lockdown is to try and ensure the NHS can cope with numbers of people being hospitalised as a result of the virus.

The reason we took our time to lockdown and close schools if that the government knows (as advised by behavioural scientists) that you can only lock down for so long, so they key was to introduce at the right time.

Herd immunity and eventually a cure/immunisation will be the only way the virus stops.

PennyNotSoWise · 04/04/2020 11:51

🙄 What a shame you can name change on here, because this situation is really exposing the absolute fuckwits and ageist idiots.

Everyone thinks the world revolves around them right now don't they? They're far too important to have to stay indoors, FFS.

Lockdown is in place for a reason. Wait it out like everyone fucking else and stop whingeing.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/04/2020 11:52

Thing is though. It’s not just vulnerable who are vulnerable in this. Covid 19 is after everyone. Being Healthy is no guarantee of defence. I mean look at that poor little 13 year old boy. Tell his poor mum and dad that , “If people aren’t ‘‘vulnerable” they should be out there.

Crazycrazylady · 04/04/2020 11:53

op

You must be incredibly dim. Surely you see that the nhs is on its knees already while socially distancing is going on. What do you think would happen if 90% of the population just 'got on with it'.😯

IrisAtwood · 04/04/2020 11:58

Technically it is true that no healthy people have died of Covid-19. Because if you have Covid-19 then you are not healthy.

HaudMaDug · 04/04/2020 11:58

Think you've had enough gin OP. Hmm

LastTrainEast · 04/04/2020 12:04

moreginplease81 if you're bored try finger painting.

LagunaBubbles · 04/04/2020 12:07

Seriously?

Helenshielding · 04/04/2020 12:07

Sure if you want loads of people to die.

Devlesko · 04/04/2020 12:08

I agree, those stupid enough shouldn't be stopped.

BelleharePenguin09 · 04/04/2020 12:08

BiscuitBiscuitBiscuit

moreginplease81 · 04/04/2020 12:08

PM's adviser warns Britain might still need to adopt herd immunity
mol.im/a/8186507

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moreginplease81 · 04/04/2020 12:11

@notonmyshift

Where were you dragged up? What a horrible comment.

Simply asking people's thoughts and opinions! I found this article quite worrying and wanted to see what others thought.

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moreginplease81 · 04/04/2020 12:14

@Devlesko those who have had it should be allowed to go about their day. And those who don't care!

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ChestyNut · 04/04/2020 12:17

Yep sure OP tell it to the family of the Healthy NHS nurses and doctors who have died due to Covid.

Luckily people with more knowledge/research are making the decisions for the country Hmm

Zilla1 · 04/04/2020 12:19

in your post of 12:14, given testing inadequacies in the UK, how will anyone know if they've had it OP? I've seen so many people certain they had it in December or January or February when it seems unlikely.

Regarding your second point, throw more HCPs under a bus OP. HCPs and their families don't matter, do they? The stupid can kill HCPs just as well as anyone else.

LastTrainEast · 04/04/2020 12:22

moreginplease81 herd immunity was always going to be a major factor. That's not really news.

"those who have had it should be allowed to go about their day. And those who don't care!" those who don't care should be rounded up and used as test subjects for vaccine research.

rosie39forever · 04/04/2020 12:22

and those who don't care! will be happily spreading it to everyone else, the nhs will collapse and instead of 20,000 dead there will be half a million dead or more what a fuckwitted OP.

iklboo · 04/04/2020 12:24

And those who don't care!

What have I just read? Do you know anything about how disease is spread?

maddy68 · 04/04/2020 12:25

My fit and healthy uncle died this week from CV

jasjas1973 · 04/04/2020 12:25

www.ft.com/content/f3796baf-e4f0-4862-8887-d09c7f706553

In the UK, about 150,000 people die every year between January and March. To date, the vast majority of those who have died from Covid-19 in Britain have been aged 70 or older or had serious pre-existing health conditions

What is not clear is how many of those deaths would have occurred anyway if the patients had not contracted Covid-19

Speaking at a parliamentary hearing last week, Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London, said it was not yet clear how many “excess deaths” caused by coronavirus there would be in the UK. However, he said the proportion of Covid-19 victims who would have died anyway could be “as many as half or two-thirds”

Personally, i think that in an attempting to deal with the issues now, we have not properly considered the longer term implications of what we are doing, an economic depression is now a real possibility, so mass unemployment, low tax take & huge social burdens... for those that shout Scaremongering! UC claims have exceeded 1 million in the last 2 weeks or so, unemployment ins claims in US are now 10m.... and we haven't even started yet.

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