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Is it anti-social to smoke in your garden?

235 replies

Mummy102 · 02/04/2020 17:54

Just that really, abiu to smoke cigarettes in my garden?

When I do, I notice my neighbour shut his window. It makes me feel awkward about doing it as I dont want to annoy him, but just wondered if other people even think about it annoying their neighbours? Or am i over thinking it?

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voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:26

Smoking causes many deaths per year, remember, unnecessarily burdening the NHS. And those won't all be the deaths of smokers either - it'll be of some passive smokers too.

BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:26

She's not responsible for smoking full stop Grin she's not Phillip Morris. (Has anyone seen them in the same room???)

I am interested in the less conscientious thing. Across all aspects of life or only some?

BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:27

The passive smokers including children of all the smokers in the UK who are being told they must smoke inside.

Even if they have a field at the back of their house Grin

Triggahippy · 02/04/2020 21:27

You have every right to smoke in your garden. However. It is horrible for your neighbour who quite rightly doesn’t want it in his house. It might make you feel awkward but it is a horrible smell.
I once lived in an upstairs apartment with lovely french doors. My down stairs neighbour used to smoke outside and regularly had her chip pan on with the doors open 🤢I had three young children and it spoilt my enjoyment of the flat to the long I sold up and moved.

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:28

In what way are smokers less conscientious?

Smoking around others, for a start!

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 21:29

Conscientiousness? In what way are smokers less conscientious?

Smokers who put their immediate wants above the comfort of other people around them are lacking in conscientiousness. Surely you don’t need that explained to you?

BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:31

The word has always meant completing things like work tasks with diligence around here.

How does smoking make you less methodical?

www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/conscientious

MyBlueMoonbeam · 02/04/2020 21:32

I don't see how just one cigarette is going to fill anyone's house full of smoke 🙄

YANBU OP we all need something to get us through these stressful times

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 21:33

Beetroot you are taking a very narrow view of what it means to be conscientious.

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:34

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2376761/

BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:34

The other point I suppose is that everyone starts smoking indoors again, apart from the fact that we've been told not to, to protect others in the household, is the increased risk of house fires.

The last thing we need at the moment tbh.

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 21:36

Myblue it doesn’t ‘fill’ anyone’s house with smoke. Ut your house doesn’t need to be ‘filled’ for it to be invasive and offensive and detrimental to your enjoyment of your personal space,

Mummy102 · 02/04/2020 21:36

So do drunks, don't see you out with your pitchforks to rip down all the drunk people. A&E is obviously so quiet because people have given up smoking or it's because the pubs aren't open. But you wouldn't judge someone drunk in their garden, even though they could be a burden to the nhs?

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BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:37

Piece I've linked the definition from the Cambridge dictionary. Is that not good enough? It's not a narrow view, it's the usual usage.

How are you all meaning it then?

vodkaredbullgirl · 02/04/2020 21:38

Mummy102 you dont need to justify yourself to a bunch of stranges on a forum.

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:38

The passive smokers including children of all the smokers in the UK who are being told they must smoke inside.

For the last time - no one who understands the dangers of passive smoking is saying this.

They are saying that you shouldn't inflict second-hand smoke on ANYONE.

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:41

But you wouldn't judge someone drunk in their garden, even though they could be a burden to the nhs?

This is a time we all need to be looking after ourselves better so as not to burden the NHS.

However, someone drinking -whilst they might damage themselves, does not damage anyone else's lungs as they drink.
So they are not as bad as you or anyone else who punts out cigarette smoke into other's homes, no.

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 02/04/2020 21:43

Fucking hell! Smokers are now murderers of innocent old people if they have to receive healthcare, healthcare should be meted out using only morality as a triage, smokers are responsible for coronavirus . . .

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:46

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg

I'm not sure you've understood my point - I think smokers are as responsible for murdering people's innocent nan's as the people going out to parks or going to the shops for small items.

But - they've been doing it much longer and with far greater consequences for the NHS than the shoppers, etc....

marmitepasta · 02/04/2020 21:46

I feel like if you do it day once a day then it is acceptable (I know you are within your rights to do it as much as you want) but I think if you're doing it multiple times a day that must be extremely annoying for the neighbour and it would be more considerate if you did it in your house.

DurhamDurham · 02/04/2020 21:48

I'd wouldn't think you were being antisocial but I would close my window as I hate the smell of cigarette smoke. If he just closes his window it's not his his fault that you're awkward. If he shouted abuse at you first that would be different (and wrong)

voiceofsanitary · 02/04/2020 21:49

I guess I'm trying to highlight a glaring hypocrisy I'm witnessing - people who smoke around others (a conscious choice which overburdens the NHS, harms others and has done both for years) and people who are shaming those for living under corona-virus conditions (not a choice).

Mummy102 · 02/04/2020 21:49

Ok cool! That's fine, just so everyone knows @voiceofsanitary has given us all permission to be drunk and disorderly in our gardens and burden the NHS. But we just can't smoke in our gardens and burden the NHS! Just so we are all clear Grin

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TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 02/04/2020 21:49

Oh, I understood your point, voice, and find it so hysterical and irrational it's rather disturbing. Am heartily glad people like you are not in charge of triaging healthcare in this or any other country, you'd be there with a morality quiz as to who gets treated whilst at the same time equating them to murderers but not yourself due to your own sense of moral superiority. Chilling.

BeetrootRocks · 02/04/2020 21:50

Lots of innocent nans used to smoke though. Some still do!

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