To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

[MrsKingfisher]

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

It's quite scary isn't it? Someone was saying to me how they wished they'd got their hair done before lockdown, and I sympathised - she then told me that I'd be fine because I know a hairdresser who lives near me, so she could "do it on the side"! Er, no ...

going shopping more than once a week

Given that you can’t bulk buy .... Very few people can shop for a whole week

Please follow the rules. While I haven’t been tested, I have had all the symptoms and it was the worst virus I’ve had. I live alone, parents stranded abroad, daughter with her father, not seen a soul for over a week. But I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Please stay safe and stop making excuses. Think of all the people who could die because they aren’t strong enough to fight it off.

I have to say I find it easy to shop for a family of five once a week. I get eggs and two sourdough loaves from a local baker and the rest from a supermarket shop. I did top up with treats from the garage today though!

I think it’s starting to work

Yeah we could all go for ‘two walks a day’ but judging by the fact I haven’t seen a soul pass by today , the message is getting home

Also yes the two walks a day could be harmless , but the more people
See people out the more they thinks it’s OK to break the rules too

Noone would ever know I had been on 6 walks a day let alone 2

I went to Tesco 3x this week

The first time (Sunday) was because we needed some food for the fridge and freezer.

The 2nd time (Thursday) was because ds has an infection in his toe and wet needed to go to the chemist to pick the prescription up.

The 3rd time (Saturday) was because we needed to collect the 2nd bottle of antibiotics from the chemist as well as some bread and milk.

Not breaking the rules as you are allowed to go out to collect medical supplies but some on here would state that by doing so I'm personally responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, especially if I go on to admit that I also bought chocolate and crisps whilst on those trips.

I think the message is generally getting through in the area that I live in.
I and one DD are the only ones going out (NHS and education/keyworkers) and we are not seeing any random groups of people at all.
The police are putting up photos of empty motorways and thanking people for staying home.
I was shocked to see pictures of packed tube trains though. Come on TFL, put more trains on so that the keyworkers can sit further apart.

Essential means different things to different people, it's a term that has so many legs that everyone can apply it, and justify it, to whatever they are doing.

I try not to stress about what everyone else is doing simply because it's not something I can control. I have only left the house once in 15 days and that was to drive (I'm disabled, can't walk far) to a friends house. I stopped the car in the middle of the road, texted her to come to the door, and we had a short chat. Her mum died less than a week ago, she lives alone, no idea if she can have a funeral or not and can't get a much needed hug off anyone. I considered it a safe option to do what I did in order to lift her spirits and make her smile for a brief moment. Other people would say I shouldn't have done it.

My DH and two teens go out a few times a week to get groceries/prescriptions for us and other people who are isolating because they have symptoms or are elderly. They do doorstep drops for anyone who needs one. One of my boys works in tesco part time too.

DH (who is actually a birdwatcher/photographer) has taken to going for a walk at 6am when it's quiet since he can't travel to his (usually very isolated) haunts. He typically walks 15/20 miles a day and is now reduced to walking round the block.

I’m 100% following the rules

But as lone parent I have to shop every few days as only going to local shop and they understandably restrict what you can buy

I do get a bit annoyed about the dog walkers getting extra walks. But given that brits are dog obsessed I’ll get shot
Down for that probably

I think people are fixating in ‘the rules’ or what’s in the legislation too much and need to think and use common sense. And by that I mean go out less, it common sense themselves into doing what they want.
The guidance was perfectly clear in the first press conference. I’m no Johnson fan and think he’s normally contradictory and a bit crap when he speaks, but this was clear.
Stay at home. Only go out if it is necessary. Not because you want to, but because you need to. Nobody really NEEDS to have more than one exercise session a day (before all this many people were saying they couldn’t find the motivation for 3 times a week). Apply that thought to every trip you make. Go out as little as possible, for as little time as possible and as little distance as possible. That’s all.

I don’t think I don’t think I am adhering to the letter if the law.

We have the virus in the house: DH got symptoms 10 days ago. Since then I have been for a walk but never come within 5 -7 m of another person, not been to a shop or indoors anywhere but home.

But I don’t think I am supposed to leave the house.

@nokidshere 20miles a day? At a very fast pace (very brisk indeed) you can cover 4 miles an hour, so that’s 5 hours walking every day. 5 hours with no stopping, no slowing down, no looking at birds...a pace which would allow a little looking around is 3 mph, so over 6 and a half hours with no rests and no stops to look at things. Every day? Sorry, I find that really hard to believe.

I haven’t been to a shop for 11 days and will not for at least another 10.

On my Facebook this evening there has been a child who has broken her arm and a man in his sixties that fell in a ditch. Both happened on the one walk a day that they are ‘entitled’ to, and both would normally be just one of those things, but both took up valuable NHS time for an unnecessary outing. I’m not going out because I don’t need to, and I’m getting judged as lazy for not doing so!

Haven't left the house since the 17th March

@cardibach

He would generally leave the house around 4/5am, drive to exmoor, Dartmoor, new forest or somewhere similar, walk all day and return home around 8/9pm although I don't see why that matters to you.

And yes, I'm probably exaggerating, it's not every day, maybe 4/5 times a week 😉 when he's not doing that he walks locally from home along canal paths etc for an average of 8/9 miles. Would you like me to post you his step counter thingy? 🙄

I have, in 30 years, never known anyone to injure themselves on a walk

There's a difference in having a 'physical' war when bombs are dropping, guns are firing etc - you can see it - you can't see this enemy and people aren't taking it seriously because of that (some people not all).

Because the ''lockdown'' isn't about saving lives.
It is about saving the Tories.

I saw on Facebook that a couple of girls in dd class has gone to the shop for sweets. I'm gobsmacked that the parents allowed / they got served / the parents put photos of the sweets on Facebook.

People on my estate are swapping buns / cakes they have made.

Yawn

I keep my horse on a national park. A very very big, mountainous one.

We (horse owners) are doing the bare minimum. We’ve turned the horses out and are buddying up to do feeds / checks to minimise our movements. Not riding to minimise injury risk, getting feed delivered instead of pick ups etc.

What we could not have accounted for, is the sheer stupidity and lack of respect for the rules by the general public turning up to now use the park, and now because the car parks are locked up, are just abandoning their cars on verges. These people would never think twice about visiting before, but now they’re entitled to ‘one piece of exercise per day’ they’re driving miles out their way to come.

Runners and cyclists who’ve never dealt with horses in their lives zooming past with no regard when we’re trying to change rugs, picking feet or leading in and out.

Walking families of 5+ crowding and asking to pat your horse.

Dogs off leads running riot barking at horses and sheep (who are about to lamb)

Folk touching gates with no wipe down (or worse- leaving them open)

Folk walking happily into the barn to show their kids the horses / find the toilet / use the hose.

It’s just mental. Folk are totally exploiting the exercise clause in the rules and someone round us is going to get seriously hurt in the process.

My horse ran over the top of me today on the way into the yard to treat a wound because a family of 4 on bikes didn’t slow down and passed us at less than a metres width. I called them out and the mother replied ‘we come here all the bloody time get used to us’

I honestly think people think if they do it all all "better" they will somehow be "safe"
Call me tragic but this is what I am clinging to. I am desperate to keep my household safe. DD1 is NHS worker and I owe it to her and her colleagues that me, DH and other DC follow the guidelines to stay home.

There's quite a few around where I am not following what's been asked.

But to be honest, asking this type of question on here is always going to give completely predictable responses. Is anyone going to really say "no, totally ignoring it, been down the beach and then had a piss up at my friends place". On here, of course they aren't.