To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

[MrsKingfisher]

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

It really boggles the mind. DD says friends are still going to each other’s houses to hang out. Madness.

I'm sure it is NoSauce
Not sure how screaming that people are pig shit thick makes anyone a better person
And trust me
I'm not burying my head
I know far more about what's going on than I wish I did
But the hysteria on here is helping no one

I don't think it does boil down to just being stupid, the friends in my circle who are like this are anything but! I think it's a 'it won't happen to me' type of attitude coupled with selfishness or that it's not really as serious as the media say it is.
People with that attitude are stupid!

I think everyone who 'breaks the rules' has a reason. On this thread there are plenty. As an individual it seems reasonable. I think we all have to use some common sense and logic.

I dont know anyone blatantly flouting the rules, I would say a few people are interpreting the rules as less strict than others, long runs, more than one walk etc.

Also you have to remember what people say/post on social media is likely to be different to what they actually do. Im only going off instagram as I haven't actually spoken to that many people about the number of walks they have been on suprisingly

It takes a while to change behaviour as well. You say people get too close but thats natural, you only have to be constantly thinking about it. It doesn't mean that they dont get it, just that they forgot.

Maybe Im just getting tired of endless so so did this wrong threads. Its all just a bit tedious and reminds me of being back at school.

It's not breaking the rules to go to the shops more than once a week either.

My 70 year old father who still goes to the local shop every day. He is very healthy and seems to assume he will get it mild if gets it.

Just look on the various threads though and you’ll see how people are ever so slightly bending the rules. Going out more than necessary / driving places / going for a few walks a day / going shopping more than once a week or going in to multiple grocery stores for “essentials”.

Where is the rule about only going shopping once a week?

There is no rule about only going shopping once a week.

I went to Tesco last Thursday , hope to make it last a week , though we are a bit short of veggies
Live rurally , so a nice walk is about 2 miles and takes about 40 minutes , have done lots of gardening as the weather is superb
I do , however check on my sister and sometimes stay for a coffee and a chat , outside though , if possible- but she’s single , on her own , and an ex smoker in her late 50s , so may be a bit vulnerable , only a crowd of 2 , I think that’s acceptable

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I am following the rules but I am doing things that I don't really feel comfortable with out of necessity.

Going to the supermarket more than I'd like to - twice a week. That's because I don't have a car and I can't afford taxis after being furloughed so I need to walk and I can only carry so much. Also I have to take DS as I'm a single parent and he's 6 so can't be left home alone.

We are only going out once a day, on the days we go to the supermarket we class the walk there and back as our daily exercise.

But that is ok it’s the ones like my neighbours whose parents turned up today in their car to go for a walk together. It doesn’t really matter whether they had the intention of social distancing. I know that I would probably forget with my family because we are very close and the behaviour of social distancing is so alien to us.
A trip to see your grandchild is not essential. Both the neighbours are young fit and well and doing their own essential shopping.

Thanks for your concern Willdoit. There is always a way around things. The problem right now is people are too willing to accept the unacceptable. Tides will turn.

Because I’m being asked (told) to put myself in the direct path of this virus everyday. This means driving 35 miles everyday and working with potentially infected people in close proximity for 8 hours a day and doing this this is my civic duty.
But I can’t drive 10 miles on my 1 day off to have a walk in the countryside on my own. But I’m ‘allowed’ to walk through the middle of town past the supermarket queues because that’s local?!
I can’t see my partner, who is my emotional support during this nightmare, because we don’t live together despite being together for over 15 years but I have to see over 30 potentially infected people every day.....
And yes before anyone asks .... he’s happy to take the risk as he isn’t in any vulnerable category and wants to support me.

My friends are knobs - mainly men, I have to add. They don't seem to get it...

DH and I went to the supermarket last Sunday (NHS hours)
He is WFH . I was on A/L

I went on Wed (alone) again NHS time on Wednesday , small amount of essential shopping .

I am back to Face to Face on Tuesday (these clinics cannot be cancelled) I imagine though a fair % of the patients will be SI so I'll see how it goes .

The ongoing cleaning of every surface deemed risky takes a load of extra time too.

I was out for my daily excersise and I made my mum drive and meet me.
I had my the worst stomach and thigh pain (21w with #1) DH and I didn’t know what to do. I’ve never been so scared in my life.
Mum recommended a walk and as I was in absolute hysterics she stayed and walked with us. She stayed two metres apart which was horrible but all I needed was my mum.
I know I should’ve managed on my own. I really do. But I was so freaked out, I called her. She heard my distress and came.
It was totally feckless and irresponsible- I don’t condone or excuse it. She could’ve probably helped on FaceTime. But you said you were curious. so please don’t berate me.

I haven't left home since they closed the schools. Both DH and I are key workers but I was on leave so not due back til next week. He has been working extra shifts (we or opposite shifts as we have no childcare) on those he has requested to start late gets food shop and brings it home and then goes to work. It's not easy but it really grates that some think they are above everyone else. It's crap for us all for different reasons but we have to be adult and unselfish.

I’m concerned that people who should be isolating because someone in their family has symptoms , will still go to work because they can’t survive on the ssp that they will be paid if they’re off work .

I will also add that my parents are fully isolating bar a short walk a few times a week and so are we.
None of us are working or seeing anyone else and it was just once that we met. Have been fully isolating including staying away from shops etc

My sister in law lives a 10/15 min walk from us and turned up yesterday to have a chat from the other side of the forecourt wall. I wasnt entirely comfortable with it. They were on their daily walk (to be fair they would do this anyway) but felt a bit weird about it.

Maybe it was ok but even when I went out to do a small shop yesterday (first one for nearly 2 weeks) I felt guilty as I was getting some stuff for vulnerable neighbours as well as us who cant go out and grabbed some easter eggs for the kids whilst I was in Tesco.

There are many people where we live who are flaunting the rules dreadfully, we live in a very populated area and kids are playing football in the parks and loads of teens were out and about last week. Police presence is quite high here.

Don’t know if I am or not. Only time I leave house is to walk the dog, always in same place 10 minute walk away, but sometimes I drive there as she’s never been road walked (live fairly rural) is a nightmare on the pavement and I want to nip to shops for food on way back. Government say there are no driving restrictions, local police say there are and are fining people driving as do local Facebook power crazed nimbies.

Most people here are sticking to it and the town and beaches are thankfully deserted, unlike last weekend when they were spectacularly busy.

My two direct neighbours...

On one side, still going for three dog walks a day. Let her kids play on the playground the other day despite there being a huge closed notice on it. Saw them as I walked past on my one government mandated walk for the day.

Other neighbours boyfriend keeps visiting.

I guess they think the rules don’t apply to them.

I'm not asking so I can berate people, I'm curious as to why people (some not all) are so determined to find a loophole. Has anyone been stopped by the police yet? I know a few of my friends have been stopped and asked where they're going or where they have been.