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To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

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MrsKingfisher · 29/03/2020 19:55

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

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tinytemper66 · 31/03/2020 08:41

I am a teacher and am on a rota like most school staff
I have only been in once in 7 days as other staff "wanted" to do it instead-crack on! I have shopped for 3 households and mine. I have supported my disabled son in his home- the only other household I have to go into to care for him. The others I leave the stuff on the doorstep.
My husband is still working and when he isn't he goes for a walk about 8 in the morning. I haven't been out exercising yet but know I need to as I will be rolling out of the house if I don't.
I have colleagues who don't live together but mix households despite the guidance not to.
I think we can all do our best in our own circumstances and not take the mick really.

Babs1953 · 31/03/2020 09:19

I'm a key worker and work in home care. I am also in the middle of moving into my partners home. Fortunately, at the moment, we are both, don't have any underlying health issues at the moment and I have already informed, all the relevant bodies that I am moving and have a faulty gas cooker I can't use. We have permission to move as long as we don't involve anyone else. We are both following the rules and sometimes I don't even go out for a walk. As I live on my own at the moment,with my aging cat, I don't have a lot of contact anyway and obviously can't see my friends. It's hard but I understand the importance.

LittleSweet · 31/03/2020 09:28

I followed the rules immediately. I have covid19. 🙄

Crookshanksthecat · 31/03/2020 09:48

Yes Littlesweet but everyone around you clearly didn't.
This is the whole point, people think that it doesn't matter if just a few of us don't follow the rules or bend the rules (and we always have a very good reason for doing so of course) as long as most people do it will be fine but people are still spreading it, so for some people it won't be fine.

TheGoogleMum · 31/03/2020 10:03

Argued in a local Facebook group yesterday about when 2 adults go to the supermarket together (I don't think it's necessary, but this woman didn't think her husband could manage it even with a list, but she couldn't go alone because she can't carry heavy shopping bags :/). I think too many are bending the rules. I've been following them and now I'm stuck at home because I've started coughing :( (I'm an nhs worker)

Jesusisking · 31/03/2020 10:14

Actually, if everyone does what he or she is suppose to do as outlined by the health authorities, this virus will be gone in a very short while & things will be back to normal again, but some people just deliberately refuse to understand this . GOD HELP US.

rrg1 · 31/03/2020 10:19

Food for thought!
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
― Benjamin Franklin

CountryGirl1234 · 31/03/2020 10:27

Personally I think people think they are so far away from consequence and death, sheltered from it mostly. Until you’ve struggled for your life, seen someone die or suffered huge loss I doubt it will seem real to most. Blissfully ignorant and self absorbed.

CountryGirl1234 · 31/03/2020 10:28

Will not *

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 10:31

Everyone near me is following the rules. Very few people out - dog walkers/joggers and older people shopping a bit.

Apart from my step father who thinks nothing of popping to shops a few times a week. You can't reason with him. He can't shift his mindset to accommodate the current situation even though he's putting DM at risk.

Even though we have lots of great countryside around we are limiting to within 1 km - luckily we have an allotment to go to, as have no garden to play in.

Its people with really young kids/children with SEN in tiny houses/flats that will be feeling this the most I think. Hard to withstand/occupy toddlers or babies with colic all day inside without going mad. Build cardboard fort and hide inside with your beer is the appropriate step to take in these circs.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 31/03/2020 10:34

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety

So, what’s your point? Do you think we should fight for our ‘liberty’ to mix freely at the cost of people’s lives? Since you are so keen on your freedom, please feel free to volunteer helping remove the bodies of the COVID19 victims from the hospital wards. Don’t listen to the staff about wearing protective gear, while you’re doing it. After all, who are they to try to curtail your freedom? Please feel free to come back to us and tell us how you get on. 🙄

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 10:41

Remember you can be carrying it asymptomatically for 11 to 24 days, so even though you may be tempted to think you are safe to see a friend/family member, you are not out of the woods. Admissions to hospital still 1000 cases a day - because of time lag of cases showing up and then getting severe symptoms which need a hospital admission. We have only been isolating for a week or so, and many of us may well still be carrying Covid without being aware.

Please be act more safely than you believe you need to.

On another note, are people disinfecting their shoppping? I did this for the first time this week. The non-perishables are in quarantine in the hallway. Take heed of the people of Eyam if you want a bit of history today. They set a good example of how to contain an outbreak (plague). The upside is that hopefully we won't pay the tragic price they did.

DuchessAnnogovia · 31/03/2020 10:43

I have to flaunt the rules. I live in an apartment and I have a dog. I take him out 3 times a day. I've had to change the times I take him though. I take him out at 5am, when there is no one about. This is a comfort break walk. He's then taken out about midday. This is our exercise walk. Where we are it's very easy to avoid people The last walk is around 8pm. Again a comfort walk.

I wear disposable latex gloves, a face mask and his lead, collar etc is sprayed with disinfectant spray when I return. Over cautious, maybe, better safe than sorry though.

I am missing our normal routine so much, we usually have 3 one hour plus walks a day- plus comfort breaks.

Stay safe everyone x

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 10:45

Agree with you @CountryGirl1234. I lost my dad when I was 9 due to flu complications/septicaemia.

It took 24 hours from him being fit and well, to his body being overcome with septic shock. He was 36.

It has marked the course of history for our family. You can't mess about in times like this.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 31/03/2020 11:05

Thank you for mentioning that, KisstheTeapot14. I found the story and was so moved by the sacrifices made by those poor villagers. Whereas so many today can’t live without visiting friends/relatives and having bloody barbecues.

interestingengineering.com/plague-infested-village-self-quarantined-to-stop-the-plague-of-1666

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 31/03/2020 11:07

I’m so sorry you lost your poor dad so young. It must have been an incredibly upsetting and frightening time for you. 💐

Teddybear27 · 31/03/2020 11:09

I think most people ARE following the guidelines and doing what we have been advised. I think also, as someone mentioned, people think it won't happen to them so they don't need to worry about it. They think it will happen to someone else or they are just sticking their heads in the sand and hoping it will go away...
The day it hit home to me is when I saw Idris Elba (Luther) on his Twitter page a few weeks back saying he had been tested and had the virus and felt absolutely fine and I realised that you could have it and feel perfectly ok. That was a big shock to me but as I say it was about 3 or 4 weeks ago now before it all really kicked off.
What annoys me is these people who hold an outdoor market and say it is 'shopping' and people are milling around looking at stuff! GO HOME!
Stay safe everyone and look after each other.. ❤️

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 31/03/2020 11:27

I did a big shop last weds while my son was still staying here, I don't drive and he's now gone back to his gf. We took food up to my mum and grandad who are isolating and spoke to them from a distance

Other than that I've been to the corner shop yester Day for bread milk and a few treats for the kids

I've managed to get a farm shop delivery of fruit every 2 weeks that starts in 2 weeks time and a Tesco delivery for the 20th.

I'll have to go out towards the end of the week for fresh stuff but I'd rather not

JiltedJohnsJulie · 31/03/2020 11:27

Me and the DC are staying in, DH is going out once a week for ours and DPIL's shopping.

It's really not hard to understand.

CountryGirl1234 · 31/03/2020 11:31

I’m sorry to hear about your dad @KisstheTeapot14. Such a terribly young age to have gone. I wouldn’t wish that kind of understanding on anyone. But they may bring it on themselves if they do not stay put, which would be so very sad.

WorkHardPlayHard1 · 31/03/2020 11:32

Aw please stay in and we WILL ALL BENEFIT INCLUDING YOU. Am absolutely desperate to deliver the 20 Easter eggs have bought for family (thinking I was organised before the rush) but they will be sitting in my car boot for god knows how long now!! Am so so sad not to see mum for mothers day, Easter, birthday 🎊 but also thinking its only temporary and would rather see her alive!! Don't you love your parents, family and friends enough? Do you want them at risk of death? No? Them stay in. One thing this virus has taught us is that we are NOT in control of everything and we are NOT special. Please stay home🏡 PS quick update egg count now 19 as daughter nicked one...

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 11:41

Personally I don't mind so much people going out walking more than 1 x day but people still covertly mingling is a no no.

Shopping, you just have to square with your conscience how often you need to go.

We are lucky to have 2 online slots booked so no need to venture into shops. If we run out of bread and milk we just have to use something else out of cupboard for a week...

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 11:42

Thanks for the kind messages. He was really lovely and loving dad, and just so glad he was part of our family for as long as he was. I know others aren't always so lucky with their parents. Sad he never got to see me and my sister grow up and have children of our own. He'd have loved that - he was full of mischief and fun.

I just pray people don't lose loved ones because of other people's inconsiderate side. Covid is not just about us individually, its about protecting as many as we can around us. Ripple effect.

KisstheTeapot14 · 31/03/2020 11:44

be the match that stops it

rrg1 · 31/03/2020 11:49

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