No Daily Mail, the young Royals did not lead the clapping last night

[chomalungma]

They took part.
Just like every other citizen of the UK did
They did not start it.

I know, I know, bigger things to think about and all.

But it has raised the Republican in me to see headlines saying "The clapping was led by the Royal cuties"

We were all part of it. It just started on our street.

But that's how you are judging the royals popularity, by views on the clapping and sophie wessex videos?

Yes, but I'm not quoting viewing figures from 2016 - one is gaining popularity - the other not.

Why have Republic terminated 73 director's appointments?

'Losing popularity?'

I wouldn't count on that being true. Eg A YouGov poll of 2018 showed widespread indifference to the royals. As expected, a clear majority (60%) said they liked the Queen, but only a third said they liked her “a great deal”. Meanwhile, only 37% wanted Charles to succeed the Queen; 46% said they would prefer “someone else”. So a lot of the popularity relates to the Queen herself; much of it may evaporate once she is succeeded.

But even if it is true that the Republican movement is unpopular; for some of us that is not a reason not to continue supporting something we believe is right. Most movements for change started by being widely unpopular and ridiculed; eg read up on the Suffragettes.

You noticed the written statement then - took you long enough. That came out last week - I am surprised that an ardent Royalist like yourself didn't bring that up sooner. Did your Google search not find that till now?

And a written statement is not the same as a visual one to the nation on National TV

You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.

Your deflecting about Republic is just that. Deflection from the truth.

*Yes, but I'm not quoting viewing figures from 2016 - one is gaining popularity - the other not.

Why have Republic terminated 73 director's appointments?*

Can you not see how unreliable viewing figures are? There are videos showing extreme violence online with millions of views, dont mean they are all watching and approving of it. I know it suits your narrative but you just cant interpret anything from it.

As for the republic directors, I don't know. I'm not on here advocating for the group so I dont understand why you keep endlessly bringing them up? It's like an obsession.

From The Herald, Scotland
When Prince Andrew gave his notorious interview to the BBC, it was portrayed as a maverick member of the Royal Family out of touch with the real world – using the luxury New York apartments of paedophile friends, embarking on “straightforward” shooting parties – as we all do, of course.

Prince Charles has shown this is not a one-off incident. In fact, this lack of connection with the real world is a trait shared by many royals. Perhaps it is genetic.

The Royal Family seem to see everything through a prism of fresh paint and newly-cut flowers, being greeted by cherubic children and grateful subjects.

By jumping the queue for his test and ignoring Government instructions to stay at home, Prince Charles has displayed a remarkable degree of insensitivity.

Instead of thanking the public for their expressions of concern he should be apologising to his loyal and gullible subjects. When others are told not to use their holiday homes as a safe haven, why should he be exempt?

Perhaps, like the companies of rogue owners who have recently shown disdain for common decency, we should be thinking of boycotting Duchy of Cornwall products.

@clavinova

Quotes directly from the Queens statement:
we all have a vitally important part to play as individuals - today and in the coming days, week and months. - I thought you said they were best off isolating at home, and by doing this were actually doing us a favour?
You can be assured that my family and I stand ready to play out part - I thought you said the queen cant make a difference to the current situation? And that there was nothing she could do?

So even the queen is contradicting you now

Most movements for change started by being widely unpopular and ridiculed; eg read up on the Suffragettes.

You must be a fan of Brexit?

Any day now there will be a 'majestic spouting forth' as the royal press office suggest they spout now.
Genuine?
No chance.
Meaningless?
Certainly
Will the Daily Fail herald it as 'caring royals'
Sure will

'You must be a fan of Brexit?'

Sorry Clavinova but I really have no idea what you are on about there.

I think that was an attempt at humour to sidetrack from losing the argument on the Queen and a Royal Address

In a way the royals are their own worst enemy. They would easily win sky high public approval if they had a proper work ethic and stopped trying to fob us off that tweets and online videos are 'work'. They could very easily show willing by donating money themselves (e.g. 20% of Duchy profits, opening their stately homes for public visits and pledging the proceeds) but choose to stick by their tactic of 'raising awareness' of campaigns and asking others to give money whilst hoarding their own. The endless renovations etc dont help, such as the 1.5 million spent on Frogmore Cottage which is now empty whilst they appeal on behalf of the homeless. It is utterly brazen and indefensible on all levels. And that's not even starting on their very shady personal lives, considering themselves above justice and decency. A national pandemic is a stellar opportunity for them to muck in and show they care after months of bad press, but what do they do? Run off to their country residences (against public health advice) and do the odd online post, neglecting to even directly address the public.

I just feel sad for those that con themselves into thinking the royals genuinely care about them. I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble but the royalists view of them is frankly deluded.

A national pandemic is a stellar opportunity for them to muck in and show they care after months of bad press, but what do they do? Run off to their country residences (against public health advice) and do the odd online post, neglecting to even directly address the public

They are missing an open goal.

It is not hard to write an address to the nation at this time. 27 million people watched Boris address the nation on live TV. It's not like we are going anywhere or have any plans to go out.

It does seem strange that there has been no queens address to the nation. I get that she's elderly and it would be tricky to set up, but it all seems a bit of a misfire at the minute. I don't know if you've seen the latest update on Prince Charles and how he's enjoying spending time with the red squirrels and urges us to think of our carbon footprint. If they aren't able or prepared to address the nation and say something decent then at least have the decency to remain invisible.

I get that she's elderly and it would be tricky to set up, but it all seems a bit of a misfire at the minute

A simple laptop and a camera would be enough.

She must have Skype

She must have Skype

Its all zoom and what's app now

It does seem strange that there has been no queens address to the nation.

Two plausible explanations.

a: She's ill and too unwell to do it - despite what the palace may say .
b: She's dead and the palace are waiting to see if Charles is going to make it before announcing anything.

c. 'Don't make unnecessary journeys, don't go to remote places' delivered by a family who've done just that might not go down too well.

Maybe she read my thread....

Glad to see she is doing this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52155430

Queen to address the nation and the Commonwealth

@chomalungma

Spooky that all of our requests are coming to fruition...

Charles if you're reading this, please dip your hand in your pocket and make a substantial donation to the hospital you just had the nerve to open (despite flouting NHS rules yourself).

William, threatening to join the air ambulance isnt enough, you have to actually do it, and for longer than one afternoon.

Kate, your sister releases cook books, get your hands on a free copy and think of how much a hot meal would mean to an exhausted emergency worker after a 12 hour shift. A few hundred of those is the least you can do.

The Royal family are treated just like teachers on MN. Whatever they say or do is wrong or not enough.

@notchickenagain

It's what they dont say and dont do, actually.

The Royal family are treated just like teachers on MN. Whatever they say or do is wrong or not enough

No, teachers do a vital and demanding job that they have trained for years to do. They get little reward for the often thankless challenges they have to adapt to.

The royals do not do a vital or demanding job, for which they are extraordinarily well rewarded for!

For most of us being confined to a luxury palace with acres of private land, pampered by servants would be a luxury holiday we'd pay a fortune for.

So, what did we all think of Liz 2's speech then?
Frankly i thought it was a load of twaddle but that's because I'm prejudiced against the lot of them

Didn't listen to the speech, would be irrelevant to my life.