No Daily Mail, the young Royals did not lead the clapping last night

[chomalungma]

They took part.
Just like every other citizen of the UK did
They did not start it.

I know, I know, bigger things to think about and all.

But it has raised the Republican in me to see headlines saying "The clapping was led by the Royal cuties"

We were all part of it. It just started on our street.

They're doing a great job
Who Kate and William?
Their nannies?
Their team of dressers, security, maids, various sycophants, cooks, cleaners, valets, hairdressers, chauffeurs, advisors etc etc

Seriously?
They do nothing off the sweat of their own brow. They have no money worries, no threat of unemployment, no need to join an NHS waiting list, no schooling concerns and currently have a Covid 19 tests available to them, unlike our emergency services and key workers.

Yeh yeh - great job if you can get it 🙄.

Why do Irish heads of state use government jet's? I though that wasn't allowed in your communist utopia?

Changing the subject and reductio ad absurdum.

Never said wanted communist utopia.

Never said anything about private jets.

Thread isnt about the Irish president.

You're avoiding the questions. Again.

Ireland's population is just under 5 million - the UK has a much larger population to cover with official engagements - not to mention our interests and ties abroad.

Ireland's population is just under 5 million - the UK has a much larger population to cover with official engagements - not to mention our interests and ties abroad

This is so not about Ireland

Do you think the Royal Family are cooking their own meals and doing their own cleaning now?

@Clavinova

We have a larger population, so what?

And still miles cheaper for ireland - 0.04p a year each, seeing as you love to do the maths that way.

And yet I think the largest number of views on twitter is taken by Selena Gomez.

Selena Gomez is worth $75 million apparently - Sophie Wessex is underpaid.

This is so not about Ireland

Apparently we should have a head of state similar to Ireland. What is your business plan then? You're not one of those people who want to change something for the sake of it are you? The Labour Party are good at that.

You're not one of those people who want to change something for the sake of it are you? The Labour Party are good at that.

They doing social distancing and not putting strain on the NHS

So, basically, carrying on as normal.

And still miles cheaper for ireland - 0.04p a year each, seeing as you love to do the maths that way.

Where did you get 0.04p from?

"The highest cost came in 2017, with a total spend of €3.6 million on the office of the presidency."

"On top of the direct funding, the presidency is also supported by spending from government departments and state agencies. Funding from these “allied services” was €4.4 million in 2012 and €5 million in 2017."

www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/%C3%A1ras-publishes-details-of-spending-by-higgins-during-first-term-1.3730342

Apparently we should have a head of state similar to Ireland. What is your business plan then

A discussion on an elected Head of State is great - and I would be more than happy to do that.

Are you going to discuss the fact that our Royal Family haven't even bothered to do a recorded message to the Nation at the moment - a time of national crisis.

If they can't do that - then what is the point of them?
This is their moment - and they are failing us as figureheads and a unifying force.

I don't think you will answer that.

How about this for a 'business plan'?

We sell them.

Hear me out. The Queen is currently head of 16 states.

United Kingdom
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
Jamaica
Barbados
The Bahamas
Grenada
Papua New Guinea
Solomon Islands
Tuvalu
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Belize
Antigua and Barbuda
Saint Kitts and Nevis

Let's hold an auction and the highest bidder gets to keep them. See how much they are actually 'worth' to someone. If they are such amazingly wonderful financially beneficial assets just think what they could do for the economies of Papua New Guinea or Belize if they had exclusive rights.

The proceeds of the sale go to the remaining countries on a pro rata basis which then hold their own talent contests to find local replacements. Everyone wins.

(Where's Tuvalu?)

Selena Gomez is worth $75 million apparently - Sophie Wessex is underpaid.

Selena earned her money. What part of the word 'earned' have you failed to understand on this thread?

Apparently we should have a head of state similar to Ireland. What is your business plan then? You're not one of those people who want to change something for the sake of it are you? The Labour Party are good at that

Yes let's have a head of state like Ireland. Cheaper, more efficient, streamlined and democratic.

The Queen can keep the Lancashire estate and all properties on it. PC can keep the Duchy and all properties on it. They become financially independent.

Kate and Wills can keep Anmer and Wills can go back to work as a pilot.

The rest of them can fend for themselves.

Buckingham Palace, Balmoral and Windsor Castle to be owned by the National Trust, opened for public use and the profits going towards maintaining the properties and environmental charities.

The money that would otherwise go to the sovereign grant can be allotted each year by the PM to the service most in need; e.g. NHS, mental health, primary schools etc.

The money spent on the security bill can pay for the new head of state, plus a new charity department within the government which holds fundraisers, etc.

See, answering a question isnt that hard is it?

@clavinova 0.04p is basic maths. The Irish presidents salary divided by population number. It's easy.

I would also propose we have an Independence Day bank holiday weekend at the end of January. Something to look forward to once Christmas is over, this will give shops restaurants etc a boost.

@TheSandman - GENIUS! That is actually the most amazing idea!!!

I love how @Clavinova has spent the entire thread dodging answering questions, yet gets 3 full direct replies when asking one

Yes let's have a head of state like Ireland.Cheaper, more efficient

It doesn't appear to be cheaper per capita to me. Looking at the figures above; at least 8.6 million Euros in 2017 - that's not 0.04p per person with less than 5 million population - what nonsense.

Selena earned her money.What part of the word 'earned' have you failed to understand on this thread?

Potential revenue is the same though if 1 or 2 million people view your twitter/instagram video. Not to mention the young royals;

"2018 Prince Louis Arthur Charles —Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge’s third royal baby—is less than a week old, but he’s already generating tens of millions for the British economy."

"Like his siblings, Prince William and Kate Middleton’s new baby boy, the newest addition to the the British Royal Family, has boosted economic opportunities for retailers and thrilled loyal fans hoping to by related memorabilia. Prince Louis is expected to generate somewhere between $70 million to $125 million within the first few weeks of his life, according to estimates from two different United Kingdom-based consumer trends research firms."

Yes let's have a head of state like Ireland. Cheaper, more efficient, streamlined and democratic.

Not to mention one that no one’s ever heard of!

Whatever the small minority of republicans might say, everyone from the US President to the street-kids of Mumbai knows and respects the Queen of England.

Are you going to discuss the fact that our Royal Family haven't even bothered to do a recorded message to the Nation at the moment - a time of national crisis.

Prince William did on the 19th March;

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1257123/coronavirus-latest-prince-william-National-Emergencies-Trust-donations-appeal

Sophie Wessex did on the 24th March;

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1259424/sophie-wessex-news-lady-louise-windsor-coronavirus-lockdown-royal-family

Anyone else looking forward to the Queen doing a video message to the nation at this worldwide time of crisis?

I give you a perfect example - from Leo Varadker

That was not a message to the Nation.

Whatever the small minority of republicans might say, everyone from the US President to the street-kids of Mumbai knows and respects the Queen of England.

So What? Everyone from the the US President to the street-kids of Mumbai knows who Tom Cruise, Madonna , and that footballer who married a Spice Girl are. None of them are state-funded. What's your point?

@Clavinova

Potential revenue is the same though if 1 or 2 million people view your twitter/instagram video. Not to mention the young royals

What has this got to do with anything? Is Sophie W donating revenue from Instagram to a coronavirus charity? Have I missed something?

The highest cost came in 2017, with a total spend of €3.6 million on the office of the presidency.

Still less than half the cost per head for each Irish citizen. And was is spent renovating his stately homes and that of his children and grandchildren?

Not to mention one that no one’s ever heard of!Whatever the small minority of republicans might say, everyone from the US President to the street-kids of Mumbai knows and respects the Queen of England.

Do you not see the awful irony of a street child in Mumbai being aware of the Queen, but not vice versa?

What has fame got to do with it? How does it benefit us?

Sophie Wessex did on the 24th March

Pulling out the big guns aren't they?

Prince William did on the 19th March

PW isnt the Monarch.

You STILL havent answered why a young, fit, healthy man with no job or childcare responsibilities who allegedly gave up his only useful activity to be in training to be king cannot do something that tangible helps people I this crisis, rather than simply doing 5 minutes of PR asking everyone else to help as usual.

@chomalungma

@Clavinova is obsessed with the Sophie Wessex video.

A video showing us common folk how to look after our kiddies in a mansion with nannies is the only offering we have from the royals, so clavinova brings it up as often as possible. And when things get desperate she will say how many views it has had.

Still cant say how it helps though.

I give you a perfect example - from Leo Varadker

Leo Varadker holds the same position as Boris Johnson - I've seen a lot of Boris Johnson - no euphemism intended.