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I didn't do anything wrong....did I?

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Funkyslippers · 26/03/2020 16:40

DD desperate to see her friend who lives a few streets away. She made brownies and we dropped them on her doorstep, went back onto the pavement around 12 feet away, DD called her and she came to the door, took the brownies and said thank you.

They then call each other while we're walking home (social distancing all the way but not many people around) and her older sister shouts in the background "her mum let her do that? That was stupid!!!" meaning we shouldn't have brough the brownies round to her house. I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, the postman delivers mail to houses each day. Am I missing something? Or is she worried about eating contaminated food - we washed our hands thoroughly during the process.

OP posts:
cantata · 26/03/2020 22:19

@pippong Exercising hard in the limited time allowed so you don't succumb, again, to the kind of depression where you fantasise on an hourly basis about taking your own life is a "good reason" to leave the house.

Been there, am doing that.

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 22:28

@WeAllHaveWings If you can answer the question, don't call it a ridiculous question. Just answer it. Which rule is OP breaking?

You are really looking like you don't have an answer, here. Especially in your rounding on me about my mindset. There's no mindset in the simple question:

Which rule is OP breaking?

Angelw · 26/03/2020 22:32

It Wasn’t an essential trip, message was loud and clear by BOJO Monday just gone. You do need to take self responsibility for your actions , COVID-19 is no joke, just yesterday we heard of the 21 year old from high Wycombe with no underlying health issues who died (MHSRIP ), can’t even start to imagine what her poor family are going through.
Mistakes do happen, so don’t be too harsh on yourself, we all live and learn.
These are difficult times, we do need to listen to what the science is telling us. They are experts for a reason!

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 22:40

@Eckhart

I am basing my family and other's safety on latest research and advice, not a BBC programme, which I didn't watch.

My sarcastic 'wild guess' was that an elderly woman was self isolating. Not really much of a stretch.

ShadowOnTheSun · 26/03/2020 22:42

Wow. One woman's child baked some brownies and dropped them on her friend's doorstep whilst passing by. She is:

a fucking idiot and should fucking stay at her fucking home (pretty much verbatim)
a selfish, ignorant, indulgent idiot
a fucktard
and whatever else

Nice one, people.

To those STAY AT HOME folk. How about : FUCK OFF??? Using the same rhetoric. Address Boris with your stay at home, isolate yourselves for months and wash your post at 90 degrees (or better still, just burn it) claptrap. He's a prime minister as far as I know, and is being advised by all kinds of epidemiologists and other specialists. He said people are allowed out once a day for exercise which is: walking, jogging or cycling. Yes, he said you shouldn't go out for non-essential stuff, but also said - you're allowed to exercise (walking, jogging or cycling).

Now if you want to stay at home for months - go ahead, no one is stopping you. But people are allowed outside and that's that.

OP and her child were walking. Keeping their distance from other people. THEY WERE FOLLOWING GOVERNMENT'S GUIDELINES and doing nothing wrong. Ok, brownie issue could be debatable and maybe wasn't the best idea, but OP really doesn't deserve to be called 'a fucktard' for that.

I went for a walk yesterday. Kept my distance from people, as advised. Met policemen at various points of my walk. They didn't say a word to me, except for 'hello'. Clearly wasn't breaking any laws there, as much as hysteric 'don't step outside, you're killing my grannie, you twat' harpies would like to believe.

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 22:42

Nobody has claimed it was an essential trip. It was on a daily exercise walk.
Dropping food on doorsteps has been endorsed by the government since they started suggesting isolation of households. No exemptions were made in law, in terms of 'food breathed on/sneezed on/touched by/vomited on'. That's been left to our own discretion. So, why not allow people to use their own discretion, rather than making up laws of our own, and inflicting them on others?

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 22:44

It's surprising how many people need rules to follow and don't just use common sense!

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 22:47

wing why don't you answer eckharts question? I'm curious to know which rule you claim the OP broke...

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 22:47

@Mothership4two

My sarcastic 'wild guess' was that an elderly woman was self isolating. Not really much of a stretch

Not a stretch at all. I imagine a high proportion of viral experts would count that as scientific proof.

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 22:49

Very well said @ShadowOnTheSun sadly the hysterical on here who have made up their own rules won't actually comprehend your post.

SoapIsYourFriend · 26/03/2020 22:49

We do need to vote. What part of the guidance did you not understand?

WeAllHaveWings · 26/03/2020 22:49

Let's have a mass UK wide bake day this weekend and then all drop it off at our neighbours houses. Let's all share the virus love ❤️

Good idea?

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 22:54

What part of the guidance did you not understand?

What part of the guidance did the OP go against?

Pishposhpashy · 26/03/2020 22:57

People are literally inventing rules.

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 22:58

Please explain how the virus could possibly be transmitted ?

nor is there a risk posed through cooked food

And again: One cough can produce 3,000 miniscule droplets that can last in the air for up to 3 hours. So these droplets could potentially land on food and/or the containers. It can survive for at least 3 days on hard surfaces. There has not been a study for ingesting the virus (as far as I know), but if you can transfer it by touching your face, it stands to reason, that putting it in your mouth is not a good idea. WHO has said they are "assessing ongoing research on the ways COVID-19 is spread and will continue to share new findings"

Pishposhpashy · 26/03/2020 22:58

Like, on my walk today I posted a birthday card. So I shouldnt have done that? As it was technically non essential and not deemed part of my walk, even though I was already on the walk?

Hirsutefirs · 26/03/2020 22:59

Brownies are crap anyway.

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 22:59

wing why don't you answer eckharts question? I'm curious to know which rule you claim the OP broke...

Still spouting, @WeAllHaveWings. Still not answering the vital question at the crux of your own argument.

MarieFromStTropez · 26/03/2020 23:04

Did you breathe on them? Of course you did! Sorry OP, but it is a bit irresponsible. The virus can live up to 5 days on surfaces. Including food surfaces.

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 23:07

*My sarcastic 'wild guess' was that an elderly woman was self isolating. Not really much of a stretch

Not a stretch at all. I imagine a high proportion of viral experts would count that as scientific proof*

Proof of what? You have lost me. I don't know what you mean. The elderly are self isolating at the moment. 100% around me. It's a statement of fact not a validation.

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 23:08

@Mothership4two It's up to people's discretion. Do you normally cough on a cake before giving it to someone?

Well then, lets afford op with the trust not to have done so, either. Given that Boris can't make every tiny little thing specific, we must rely upon decency, care for others, and discretion.

What is your argument against this?

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 23:10

@Pishposhpashy

As long as they don't eat the card I think you will be OK!

It's up to them whether they will wash their hands after handling it.

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 23:19

@Pishposhpashy how DARE you have posted a card! Grin

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 23:22

@Eckhart

I try not to cough over any food tbh! Grin

And again (4th time now): One cough can produce 3,000 miniscule droplets that can last in the air for up to 3 hours. So these droplets could potentially land on food and/or the containers. It can survive for at least 3 days on hard surfaces. There has not been a study for ingesting the virus (as far as I know), but if you can transfer it by touching your face, it stands to reason, that putting it in your mouth is not a good idea. WHO has said they are "assessing ongoing research on the ways COVID-19 is spread and will continue to share new findings"

OP asked a question and my answer is I think she took an unnecessary risk, not end of the world, just unnecessary and I wouldn't have been best pleased if my ds had brought them into the house. My opinion, obviously not yours.

Think a bit of common sense would go a long way at the moment.

Branster · 26/03/2020 23:26

Why are people washing (how even??) and anti bac (not sure what that means) letters? The more you handle them, the worse it gets. Read the letter, put it away (bin, on desk etc) and wash your hands and don’t touch your face. It’s quite simple really.
I think OP got a bit carried away because it was something nice DD did. Understandable. But I wouldn’t eat the brownies. Too much of a risk.