AIBU to despair about the amount of posters who already think the rules don’t apply to them?

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How can anyone look At what is happening around the world and still think it’s okay to go to their holiday rental/get their nails done etc?
I don’t know whether some posters are deliberately obtuse or genuinely don’t understand (not sure how much clearer Boris could have made it tbh) but I’m actually more scared now than I have been previously due to some of the posts on here tonight

We’ve got no hope have we?

mad I've never mentioned any political leanings on MN so I only got to the second line of your post before denouncing it as unfounded. I didn't read the rest, as you're obviously on a mission to insult my views.

I will not be resorting to animal cruelty. Housetrained dogs will not toilet indoors. I do not have a garden. My dog shits thrice a day. Those are the facts. I will be social distancing, and doing what I need to do to care adequately for my dog. Feel free to report me to the police. I'd like to speak to them, as it happens, for some clarity.

Confine the dog in your smallest room or room with hard floor. Put down newspapers, cardboard, old towels, old curtain/bedding, etc. most of us have something lying around that we could use.
When the dog does it’s business, flush the result or throw away/wash the receptacle.
Or as a previous poster suggested, take the time you now have to train your dog to go in one place, suitably protected. Should take a week or two. It’s really not that hard.

Have you done that with your dog? I don't have any hard floor rooms. There will be shit on carpet, and some dog psychological torture to get there, including her vomiting due to refusing to shit. You clearly think it's easy to teach an old dog new tricks. It isn't, as the following, well known phrase, demonstrates: You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

No other country in the entire world has implemented a no dog walking lockdown, or any measure strict enough to force people to mistreat animals. I will ask the police when I see them, and be outdoors for a max of 1 hour a day, including my daily exercise. I'll let them decide how they're going to police me, and I'll wager they'll include a measure of humanity, unlike some of the callous pps on this thread.

If ever, anywhere, someone said 'I'm going to force my dog to hold its shit in until it vomits shit', they'd get arrested for animal cruelty. That's what the bullies on this thread are recommending. I'm glad there are more humane posters who understand my point, and think that humans are not the only sort of life that needs protecting.

And @madcatladyforever, I have an equally humane suggestion to stop your cat shitting where it shouldn't: don't give it any food.

People worry about someone walking their dog while avoiding contact with others and at the same time TFL is playing with lives and putting those who have to work at risk.

Eckhart, as a possible solution, would you consider putting your dog into kennels (if there are any who can take him) as your living accommodation is not suitable for a dog in the current situation. I appreciate it would be sad for both of you, but might be a solution.

Kennels would have toilet areas for dogs....

Thank you for a sensible, respectful suggestion, Witch. I will check how lockdown is going to be policed in my area, and consider this if it turns out to be necessary.

@Eckhart -I feel so desperately sorry for you on every level. I really hope you can find some peace with whatever underlying struggles you are having,

I think given in the current situation you obviously cannot provide sufficient opportunity for your dog to go the toilet and cannot train it to use puppy pads you need to look at rehoming the poor dog. As you rightly say the current situation does not allow you to provide for your dogs needs. There is a solution for you which solves your problem. Call the rspca and let them know you can’t meet your dogs needs - problem solved.

Confine the dog in your smallest room or room with hard floor. Put down newspapers, cardboard, old towels, old curtain/bedding, etc. most of us have something lying around that we could use.
When the dog does it’s business, flush the result or throw away/wash the receptacle.
Or as a previous poster suggested, take the time you now have to train your dog to go in one place, suitably protected. Should take a week or two. It’s really not that hard.

I’m baffled that anyone would think that this is a more acceptable solution that allowing the dog to go outside, whilst maintaining the required 2M distance from others. The world has gone quite mad.

Just been out for a 45 min dog walk. Saw a group of about 5 men hanging about a gate (looked like the local drunks), then saw someone I know going out for a walk with her neighbour who lives 4 doors away. Also there was a group of teenagers down the park.

This is why we will end up like France and Spain

life

Are you getting some sort of kick out of this

You've made your point, some people have agreed with you

Now your continual haranguing of an anonymous random on the internet is just looking, well...a bit weird

And the dog certainly does not need to be rehomed. @Eckhart is more than capable of meeting it’s needs and employing a bit of common sense in this situation. If only the same could be said about every poster on this thread.

Confine the dog in your smallest room or room with hard floor. Put down newspapers, cardboard, old towels, old curtain/bedding, etc. most of us have something lying around that we could use.
When the dog does it’s business, flush the result or throw away/wash the receptacle.
Or as a previous poster suggested, take the time you now have to train your dog to go in one place, suitably protected. Should take a week or two. It’s really not that hard.

Or nip out, stay two meter away from everybody else and let the dog do it's business.

Honestly, some people are only happy when everybody else and their dog is miserable.

Look at London's tube, look at the hordes of builders everywhere. That's where the danger is.

I agree that Eckhart has to be able to take her dog out for toileting. Dog walkers are not the problem - people going out in groups are the problem.

Had our dogs out this morning - there were gangs of teenagers playing football, small children running about wildly waving sticks (and who knows whose hands have been on those sticks before they picked them up and threw them down?)

I appreciate that we all want to enjoy this lovely weather, and people are determined to get as much fresh air as possible - but MAINTAIN DISTANCE!

And don't congregate in groups. Kids are kids - though many are old enough to understand and behave more sensibly - it is up to the parents to set an example, and ensure that social distances are maintained.

There was a police helicopter circling our local park today - it did occur to me to wonder whether they are monitoring how well people are observing the instructions. If so, we'll be on a much stricter lockdown soon because people are being stupidly reckless.

If it was just their own health at risk, I'd think "Let them get on with it.", but it isn't.

Thanks for a second flurry of support on this thread! The dog and I have managed not to break the world so far today.

Went to Sainsbury’s pharmacy today to pick up a prescription that couldn't wait, and the amount of couples shopping together was ridiculous. WHY!!! Who are they? If you did this today or yesterday - please explain yourself!

Meanwhile every dog walker I saw today was on their own with the dog

“Im baffled that anyone would think that this is a more acceptable solution that allowing the dog to go outside, whilst maintaining the required 2M distance from others. The world has gone quite mad.”

Why? The rule is, out once a day to exercise/toilet your dog.

What’s the difference between limiting a dog to one room or putting them in kennels as other people have suggested and not been lambasted for? Most kennels are dire (I worked in a “luxury” one for a very short time, couldn’t carry on in all conscience. My dog would be much happier in familiar surroundings, even if confined, with the radio on and people spending time with her, than the average kennel concrete cell for 23 hours a day (they really don’t rotate them outside for exercise as often as they tell you, a large amount of my time was cleaning up the poo from their pen which only got a decent clean on arrival and collection day, under instruction. 5 minute lick with a damp mop every other day, common practice, I was told. That’s why I left)

Only on Mumsnet could people both moan that Boris should keep it down to a level that an eight year old can understand and at the same time cover every plausible scenario.

I doubt that lack of clarity was the reason that people had to have their mass barbecues turned over by police officers, nor the sunbathers in London parks who had to be chased off by more officers. Three words of one syllable: STAY AT HOME. How could it be simpler than that?

A 21 year old with NO underlying health issues died today.What will it take for some people to get it.Stay at home. Some of the posts justifying reasons for going out and about and treating this time like some kind of super charged Bank Holiday are mind blowing.So whilst the majority of people are taking it seriously and putting up with new -temporary -way of life some idiots continue to think it doesn't apply to them.I would like to put each one in Hazmat suit and shove them into an isolation room for a 10 hour shift with a desperately ill patient and see if that changes their attitude.

We don't know that she had no underlying issues, the press have got it all off facebook and who is to say she hadn't been diagnosed with any...doesn't mean they weren't there.

Oh well, that’s alright then. If she had underlying issues at 21, we don’t need to mourn her.

Jesus Christ. Just stay home. Why is that so hard. One life is no less important than another, underlying bloody issues or not.

We do know she has CV.She was 21 years old.So if she had underlying conditions that makes it ok then ?Tell that to her family.

A 21 year old with NO underlying health issues died today.

Sad, but around 1500 people die in the UK every day including some 15 or so children/youngsters.

Let's try to maintain perspective.

All the posters who want their nannies to come in!!

“Sad, but around 1500 people die in the UK every day including some 15 or so children/youngsters. “

Indeed they do. How many more would you find acceptable?

I suggest none. Stay at home.