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Son & wife's attitude issues

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doyafeellucky · 01/03/2020 20:42

Sorry, this has turned into a longer post than intended but even then, I cannot describe all the situations and my frustrations.

Ive always been one to think I can work out problems but Im at my wits ends now. My wife and I both love our adult son who is now in his early 30's. Before our son and now wife were engaged and married, we thought we had made her feel welcome in both our home and family.

At first things seemed good. We have no problem with our son living a full independent life but, a number of things have hurt me. Im growing tired of the disregard being displayed by our son towards us and I feel we are being made into second choices. I dont expect our son to put us on a pedestal but think he and his wife should be sharing occasions more between the families rather than seeming to prioritise the others.

Prior to their marriage, I was shocked when we were told his future mother in law was organising a birthday bash for our son and would we like to come along? It was almost an after thought but hindsight suggests it was a hint of what was to come.

As most parents do nowadays, Bank of Mum & Dad, both us and our son's future mother in law helped them buy their first home. I didnt know at the time but her mother and partner were invited to house welcoming meal. We got no such invite which I find upsetting to say the least.

With initial income being tight, we asked if they'd like to come for tea, nothing special, once a month and they agreed. Everything was fine for the first 5 or 6 months. After one meal where my wife had spent time preparing, our son's fiancee decided she wanted to leave straight after the meal. I suggested my wife wanted some time to talk with them as she'd been preparing the meal and just upping and leaving was a bit unfair on her. Apparently that didnt bode well.

Later, we learnt my son's then fiancee started saying we were 'too formal,' whatever that means. Next our son says his fiancee didnt like coming to our home which meant they started visiting us less. When they visit together, they are always on their way out somewhere else or are coming back so they cannot stay long.

I have noticed she is always looking for an excuse to leave as soon as she arrives no matter how much effort we make to talk. She's more interested in her phone and What's App. But I come in useful at times for her being asked to take her to the nearest railway station from time to time.

Now, the last couple of times they have popped around, she has started staying outside in the car, again, meaning we dont get to see our son for long.

The actual wedding was something else, Our family was made to feel like it was there to make up the numbers. Unknown to us at the time, numerous official pictures of the bride and groom with all her family were taken. Despite members of our extended family being present we got 2 official pictures of my wife, our other son and myself with them. Even then, we were an after thought at seeing and being able to order the official pictures and given just 1 week before orders were no longer being taken. That hurt me enormously, goodness knows how my wife felt.

I later found out that during the evening reception when my wife welcomed our daughter in law into the family, she said our family name was 'sh*t' and she didnt intend using it although she does do so in all letters etc. I would probably have made a scene if my wife had told me this at the time.

It's the same at special occasions. 2 out of the last 3 Christmases, we have had to decamp to her mother's home because 'she always spends Christmas at her mother's and couldnt give a sh*t whether her now husband is with her or not.' Those are her words. We invited her family to ours in return for the first Christmas and would be happy to do so again but their plans are already made etc, etc so sorry we cannot make it.

Both my wife's and my birthday are near Christmas. Im not too bothered about celebrating my birthdays anymore. My wife and I had discussed it and decided to mark her birthday with some informal pub grub. But my son then says his wife doesnt like 'pub grub' which is strange because the last Christmas meal was at a pub! So we ended up having a restaurant meal which was nearer my birthday and not my wife's as I wanted.

The last straw is son and wife came around on Saturday to say they are going out with her mother for Mother's Day and would we like them to visit us 'on the way there or on the way back.'

If these events were being held at my son and his wife's home, Id have no problem with this but every special occasion has to be at her mother's home, venue of choice or involvement. We dont even get the opportunity to ask would you like to go out for Mother's Day, anniversay etc.

I find myself hoping my son and wife do not have any children, I am convinced we would never see them while they'll spend all the time at her mother's.

Im at the point now where I consider I need to make my feelings clear to our son. If he wants to consider us as second choice parents, Im not inclined to make him first choice inheritance.

My wife seems prepared to put up with this while Im not as I think it's only going to get worse and we continue to be pushed aside. I really dont know how to broach the subject with my son. I find it hard to believe he doesnt see what is happening here because there are lots of other things going on that I havent covered.

Basically, how should I approach this? Thank you for reading and any input.

OP posts:
GabsAlot · 02/03/2020 18:25

Stop giving her lifts and giving them money

she seems ok to use you but not come inside your house-rude cow

Figgygal · 02/03/2020 18:31

To all of those suggesting they make more of an effort with her how on earth are they supposed to do that if she won’t get out of the car at their house that is immensely rude

countrygirl99 · 02/03/2020 18:59

How many times do we see threads were a parent has given money and then think they can rule their DCs life? I expect there are rights and wrongs on both sides. Maybe the OP or his wife are demanding or controlling, after all no one would admit to it. Maybe the DIL us a prize bitch, they do exist. Maybe the son is a drip, we all know one. But we only have one side of this story so we can't really say who is at fault or how to re tidy the situation.

WaterOffADucksCrack · 02/03/2020 19:08

I would never treat my parents how your son is treating you. It's just nasty and whatever his wife is doing, he's going along with it and sounds spineless/pathetic.

They've essentially happily taken your money then kicked you in the teeth. Not nice people.

MintyMabel · 02/03/2020 19:30

they are the same people who will react to someone IRL who speaks well as being fake or "posh" or whatever else

I made the twattish comment. I speak well IRL, I’ve never reacted to myself as fake or posh. What a ridiculous comment to make.

moondance19 · 02/03/2020 19:36

OP stated that both sets of parents contributed. For how long do they have to be grateful in a set style?

Maybe just enough to not sit rudely outside the house in the car whilst the son visits. Basic manners.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 19:45

Should they behave a certain way just because the OP gave them money?
Thats manipulation.
Money should not have strings attached.
Ive reread the OP and is all about him and his frustrations .
Invited to their sons Birthday party -would not being invited be better ?
The wedding -nothing was right .
Pictures -nope not good enough.
Did you hear her say your name was "shit" ?
Very odd thing for a bride to say on their wedding day.
I wonder if someone was stirring -particularly given your reaction that you would have "made a scene"
You would ruin your sons wedding over a remark that came to you second hand?

You sound miserable and difficult to please OP.
Clearly she doesnt feel comfortable in your house and so you throw in disinheriting your son -well done!
Clearly the relationship has broken down and she isnt blameless but the only way forward is to examine your own behaviour, stop demanding and threatening them.
Ask what you can do to fix things and genuinely mean it .

user1487194234 · 02/03/2020 20:03

The old saying'a son's a son till he marries a wife ' does have its roots in reality
Try really hard to hang in there with no expectations OP
Hopefully things will sort themselves out in time

moondance19 · 02/03/2020 20:36

Should they behave a certain way just because the OP gave them money?
Thats manipulation

The Op hasn’t said they should behave in a certain way because he gave them money. The Dil, besides other things, sits outside the house in the car rather than go in.

That’s rudeness, regardless of any money.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 20:48

We dont know why she sits in the car .
If she genuinely feels that uncomfortable then there is clearly an issue .
The OP is threatening the son with disinheriting him and feels as he has given them money they should behave how he wants them to.
Classic FOG

Alsohuman · 02/03/2020 20:50

We know exactly why she sits in the car. She’s an ill mannered brat.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 02/03/2020 20:51

women just put themselves first do they? No, more often than not they do most the cooking and cleaning for their husbands, wash his dirty pants, put up with his porn habit, agree to sex acts that please him and sacrifice their own orgasm to protect his fragile ego ...

WT ever-loving F?

MsTSwift · 02/03/2020 20:52

Jesus can people stop posting that trite sexist shitty cliche about daughter is yours for life etc.

Mil has said that one to my face. Dh has found both his parents difficult since he was about 14. We met when he was 26 and I resent being painted by them as the reason for the distant relationship - it predates me and I’m actually the one pushing for visits Hmm.

Op they gave no obligation to you. You need to build your relationship with them as adults who enjoy each other’s company

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 20:59

We know exactly why she sits in the car. She’s an ill mannered brat.

She wasnt the one about to make a scene at a wedding though, he was.
She wasnt the one who threatened the son, he did.
She wasnt the one who has found fault with everything, the wedding, the photos, the sons birthday invite , he did
I suspect nothing will be good enough for the OP.
Protecting herself from this unpleasant man isnt being a brat and I would put money on the son feeling the same.

Alsohuman · 02/03/2020 21:02

I suggest you read the OP properly and cast aside your prejudice @Quicklittlenamechange.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 21:07

What prejudice?
I have a fantastic relationship with my PIL.
Love them to bits
Strangely enough they havent tried to threaten my DH with disinheriting him.
Thats classic manipulation /control and I cannot believe that a truly loving parent would do this.
It suggests feelings of entitlement and a need for control that is not a feature of a normal adult:adult relationship.
Pop over to Stately Homes ...

springydaff · 02/03/2020 21:08

Such a long thread that people are forgetting to read the OP.

The bride made the shit comment about the name to op's wife. Hardly second hand. The wife took a long time to tell op.

Op has not threatened his son with disinheritance. He mused about it on here because he's so incredibly HURT.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 21:15

He is talking about threatening his son with disinheriting him in the first OP ??

Alsohuman · 02/03/2020 21:17

There’s been no threat of disinheritance, OP is considering it. Read the OP properly and lose the bias.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 21:18

Most parents who are hurt ( he sounds enraged at the loss of control to me) wouldnt try to hurt their son more in retaliation.
How on earth will that help matters ?

Writersblock2 · 02/03/2020 21:18

There seems to be a lot of expectation and judgement coming from the OP about how not only his son should act but also how the DIL should act. It’s the way a parent of a child would behave, not an adult who is trying to build a relationship with adult children. The word choices are revealing too: that son was loved because he was spoiled. You talk about inheritance, you talk about money for the house, you talk about meals because of lack of money. Common theme here seems to be linking money with love. Life simply doesn’t work that way.

There’s also no indication your son had a strong connection with you pre-marriage. So why is it DIL’s fault now? Scapegoat, perhaps?

It’s funny...in my life, we don’t see either set of parents much. There’s many years worth of issues with mine. But his mother thinks they were super close when in fact he tells me they never have been. Both sets of parents spend all of the time we are with them telling us what we have apparently done wrong and how we haven’t met their rigid expectations. The result is neither of us bother much. I do find it curious, however, that we are only ever the ones who call them, text them, message them, or suggest meeting up. We always make the effort to go to them unless there’s a particular logistic reason why not. I have visited my parents without him, but he’s never visited his without me. I’m the one who buys the presents and cards and reminds him to pick up the phone. But to listen to MIL it’s since he married me that they aren’t close.

So yeah. There’s always more than one side to the story.

Alsohuman · 02/03/2020 21:18

It won’t. That’s why he hasn’t done it.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 21:20

There’s been no threat of disinheritance, OP is considering it. Read the OP properly and lose the bias.

Yes I know Confused
Hes considering it
Why would a supposedly loving,caring, parent even consider it ??

Alsohuman · 02/03/2020 21:21

But you said he threatened it. Make up your mind.

Quicklittlenamechange · 02/03/2020 21:24

Im tired, do forgive me Wink

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