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To go out in the evening so much?

300 replies

Butterbear86 · 01/03/2020 12:47

I tend to go out once a week with friends for a meal / drink. Sometimes it might be twice in one week but nothing the next - it depends when people are free. It averages to once a week, certainly no more than three times in a fortnight. I don’t go until after dc2 is in bed as dh wont have both children awake on his own, and he won’t do bedtime. The older one goes on his own. So I don’t go out until about 8pm and I’m back by 11pm. I have a six very close friends - but none of them are friends, I know them from all different places which is why we end up meeting separately.
Dh rarely goes out with friends, maybe only three / four times a year, but he is usually out the whole night and ends up stopping at one of their houses and is in bed hungover the whole of the next day. However he golfs every single Saturday, 9am and isn’t back til after 5pm as he goes to the clubhouse afterwards and from May to September he plays two evenings a week. He says it’s different because he’s back by 9pm but he goes straight from work and then both children are in bed when he gets back so he doesn’t see either of them those days.
He says I go out too much and I shouldn’t want to. The thing is - if I stay in it’s only sitting in front of the tv anyway or me doing housework / ironing whilst he sits in front of the tv.
Aibu to go out so much? I didn’t go out at all last week in the evening but I’m meant to be going out tomorrow evening and I’ve asked him if I can go next Saturday too which is why he’s not very happy.

OP posts:
rwalker · 01/03/2020 14:43

I was going to say all sound fair and both have freedom till you said he thinks you go out to much bang out of order.
TBH at 11 I would expect very very little input at bedtime let them sort themselves .
I think the mistake is you ask I would just tell.
I would never ask for permission to go out and would never expect DW to ask my permission as adults you just don't do that. It's a case of childcare covered and thats it

TheDailyCarbuncle · 01/03/2020 14:44

@TestingTestingWonTooFree

'He’s not totally pointless. Without him, it’s unlikely she’d be able to live where she does and have the luxury of being a SAHM'

Living with person who has no respect for you is not a luxury, regardless of where that happens to be or whether you stay at home with children or not. In fact, I'd argue that being a SAHM in OP's situation is an utter misery - it would be far far better for her to go out to work and for her husband to do his share.

UnaCorda · 01/03/2020 14:47

I wish he was more involved with the children but I think for him they come under the heading of ‘housework’.

Wow. I hope he's putting money away for the many years of therapy they are going to need in later life.

nanbread · 01/03/2020 14:49

Do you want your children to think his way of acting is ok and accept the same treatment / treat their wives the same as he treats you?

arethereanyleftatall · 01/03/2020 14:50

Op, do you have really low self esteem?

Because, 99% of women would not put up with this. He is utterly horrible and pathetic. I don't think you realise the enormity of how badly he treats you.

I wouldn't tolerate this op. Because I'm worth more than this. As are you.

FWIW, I'm getting divorced atm. I put it off for a few years 'because of the kids'. And, do you know what? The kids are absolutely fine. In fact, I think I'm teaching them a valuable lesson (they're girls) - you don't have to put up with 'not good enough' your life counts too.

PixieDustt · 01/03/2020 14:53

Erm what?! You asked to go out....

Shinesweetfreedom · 01/03/2020 15:01

Yes I think you should stop going out at night,the minute he gives up golf and stops going out at all as well,including all Saturday.
What he doesn’t want to stop all that,well he can fuck off then.
I am sure if you keep replying about him giving up all outside activities he will soon shut the fuck up the wanker.

arethereanyleftatall · 01/03/2020 15:05

Also, are you really sure the kids even like him?
I'm sure they say they do, of course they do, they're programmed to like their parents at the ages they are.
But why would they? He doesn't spend any time with them, there can be no actual bond.

Thinkingabout1t · 01/03/2020 15:06

He takes the whole of Saturday off for his golf? Every weekend? Plus his nights and evenings out whenever he likes. But all day every Saturday??!!! I had to check that twice. What a CF. He has no right to complain, OP. Stand up for yourself. It’s not good for DC either to see you being treated like this.

All day, every Saturday. Blimey.

KidCaneGoat · 01/03/2020 15:09

I agree with the others. He’s controlling you. He likes you to be nicely at home doing ‘wife’ duties while he lives his life. And he only watches what he wants on tv??? What don’t your friends like about him? Sounds like they were desperate to get you away for your birthday. They sound like good friends.

hokolo · 01/03/2020 15:10

If he can't manage two kids on his own he can pay for a babysitter to help him.

A 15 year old girl could manage, after all.

Butterbear86 · 01/03/2020 15:11

They are good friends. There are two that know each other and we meet together - but the others are individual friends.

OP posts:
TheSandman · 01/03/2020 15:13

I'm a man. Three kids. Hearing that a grown man can't cope with two kids' bedtime routines fills me with despair. Quite frankly, it's utterly pathetic.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 01/03/2020 15:13

Personally I think it's weird to go out during the school week socialising when you have 2 children

I find it amazing that you find anyone available to socialise! Grin

Every parent I know seems to be working/ studying/ exercising when they have some kind of free evening, I couldn't manage to catch up with anyone even if I wanted to. If you have friends who are free, you'd be mad not to meet with them when you can.

Flutteringsatlast · 01/03/2020 15:14

When I had the last dc I was in hospital a week. Dh managed the other 3 dc under 8 and they aren't even his!!
Yabu to accept such utter shite parenting op
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JustInCaseCakeHappens · 01/03/2020 15:15

Hearing that a grown man can't cope with two kids' bedtime routines fills me with despair.

don't worry, some women are just as useless of that makes you feel better.
So many threads on here where mothers cannot cope and father MUST be home for tea time and more importantly bed time, and doing it once a week on their own is already too much...

I wonder if it's more about jealousy than sheer incompetence. Parents who can't handle their own children even at bed time? Really?

flowerflies · 01/03/2020 15:20

Sorry if this has been answered - I did check but I may have missed it - why can't you go away overnight. Don't say it's because he won't let you, please!

Bluetrews25 · 01/03/2020 15:24

If you were to separate, OP, would he dump the DCs at his Mum's every other weeked so he could golf?
I'm sure he'd be upset if you broke up - he'd have to sort out his own housework, food and laundry. And be a grown up. Unless he moved back in with his Mummy. Was FIL the same???

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 01/03/2020 15:28

Because, 99% of women would not put up with this.

Sadly, I think that many women put up with this. I think that your 99% is way, way over estimated Sad

PositiveVibez · 01/03/2020 15:31

Shit dad. Shit husband. Shithead.

Get rid of the loser. One less child you'll have to tidy up after.

I'll bet you have to have sex with him when he wants or he sulks.

arethereanyleftatall · 01/03/2020 15:33

I think you're right @NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace and it's really sad. I should have added 'hopefully'.

Patch23042 · 01/03/2020 15:39

You sound passive and he sounds unpleasant. What a dreadful example to be setting those children.

You need to do something about it before it’s too late. Your friends will support you, because they can see him for what he is. For the sake of your children, stop making excuses. Woman up.

lazylinguist · 01/03/2020 15:40

OP, you sound weirdly passive avout this. Your husband is a controlling, selfish manchild, a dreadful husband, a terrible father and an awful example to his children. Why you would care if he gets 'upset' is beyond me. There is only one reason I can think of that you would stay: fear that you wouldn't be able to cope financially. Because let's face it, he's not contributing anything to your life except money, is he?

doodleygirl · 01/03/2020 15:45

OP genuine question: why do you think life should be so shit? It really shouldn’t. I dont understand why you would choose this life when It could be so much better.

RandomMess · 01/03/2020 15:47

What are his good points besides earning enough that you can SAHM for a few years as I can't see any?

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