To be worried about Coronavirus part 5

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Parents here are very upset about kids from Milan being at school today.

Thing is, if anyone who gets it might never know they have it for between 14 and 28+days, then.. we won't know about those who have returned from half term trips until at least next week and possibly mid March is that correct?

I have a sore throat, sneezing, slight temperature, feel a bit run down. I work somewhere where colleagues have definitely been travelling since early January. Including most countries cases are from. In late 30s so, I figure I could have the common cold. Or, a mild case of CV. How would I know.

Parents work in the community, constantly interacting with many people. No way of knowing who they have come into contact with, or where those people have been. Both have flu like symptoms including hacking cough. I advised them to call 111 just to check advice. They were told they couldn't possibly have CV.

If it is already here and circulating, and id be amazed if it isn't, then there really is no way to tell except mass testing, or waiting 14-28 days, right?

We used nail polish remover but he's a big baby and said it stings... His hair is down to his waist so it's covered up anyway. I'll have to grab some baby wipes in the morning.

@magicrainbowbeans this is what I dont understand.
Either a location is a risk or not. All this 'wander round potentially infecting everyone until you get sick' seems a bit rubbish

Was it a secondary school MrsStrangerThing? I'd kind of love to see that sort of operation, disaster cleaning with a DIY SOS vibe.

I’m supposed to be going to London on Saturday to the theatre. If that case is in London, then I will rethink, but it has huge implications for theatre etc.

I found this about public transport.....

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-spread-public-transport-avoid/

Ncfortuna

I agree. The cleaning I have seen whilst on hospital wards is shameful.
Same old chip under bed on arrival as on leaving, sides, radiators etc all covered in grime.

Contacted out to separate firms so no control on the actual ward.. Disgusting.
All sloppy, lax etc.

Ofwarren, he sounds very cool! Lovely mama helping a lad out.

Four, it was a primary. I was surprised they didn't ask us all to chip in!

We have a school near us where a child who has been skiing over the half term is now unwell and in hospital, the school are saying that they're still open and following phe guidelines and the Facebook response from the parents sounds like a resounding "fuck, no".

Phe can have as many guidelines as they want but until they demonstrate themselves to be trustworthy and competent, people won't listen. All this, "everything is fiiine" doesn't inspire trust it just makes people feel like they aren't on the ball.

When we were on the transplant ward with my son, where all the kids are highly immune suppressed, I spilt something and wiped to floor with a wet wipe. The wipe was BLACK! Absolutely filthy. It was right next to the bed, not a thoroughfare so no excuse.

Currently say on A&E after DD fell down stairs bumped her head and was sick. It is rammed here so so busy. The impact of Coronavirus on an already stretched system will be huge

calmon I’ve got a theatre trip planned on the 7th, still planning to go. My DH travels into central London for work everyday so he has far more chances to catch it than I do on a single trip - I’m just going to carry on unless the numbers really rise.

Yep and the cleaners welding the mop 🤮🤮🤢. Lacklustre, no energy, chatting loads n, not paying attention, not doing mop or whatever it was properly... No vigorous brushing. Utterly shit and clearly did not care about patients.

Nettle thanks I keep wondering, is it just me, am I missing something? Someone returns from an area that has cases, this means nothing of it isn't going to show up for 14-28 days. They could have caught it travelling to the airport, they aren't going to have a fever when they land.

Skiing in Northern Italy, I should add. Not just skiing

I hope your daughter is ok @Quartz2208

DS says a number of returnees from his Italy ski trip are off school sick and it's rumoured that they are being tested. Nothing from the school so just hoping that this just rumour among the students. School have been very quiet on this.

Even on mn so so many people saying they feel unwell and either won't get tested or ask for it or have been told they don't need to be.

I really am bracing for a huge spike....

@magicrainbowbeans that’s exactly what I was wondering about the Tenerife hotel guests. People have been allowed out as they don’t have symptoms, but surely they wouldn’t have symptoms yet anyway?

I find it puzzling that they’re deep cleaning schools and doctors to prevent the virus surviving on surfaces and infecting others. But goods are still being shipped from Italy and companies are telling staff not to worry because corona can’t survive on packages or goods.

Snow the 111 staff were pretty scornful when my family called about testing, could practically hear the eye rolling. Because we haven't travelled ourselves.

@magicrainbowbeans

That’s ridiculous that they say they can’t possibly have it, they could very well have it like in Italy.

Most people I speak to irl have no idea and are happily contented we have ‘only’ 15 cases.

The next step will be some of these hidden cases becoming serious or critical and finally been picked up on.

Def a need for more wide spread community testing.

Hope your parents are okay by the way.

tiger exactly

lajornadasanluis.com.mx/nacional/decidiran-en-horas-desembarco-de-crucero-msc-el-enfermo-no-podra-bajar/ looking like possibly another cruise ship?

Not to mention the fact that 14 years are going skiing for their school trips! In my day we were lucky if we got to go to the zoo (lighthearted)

Found out today that my local hospital are testing everyone who comes in for treatment, even if it's for another illness, if they have cold or flu symptoms.