To be worried about coronavirus part 4

[idontusuallypanic]

I looked and couldn't see another 4th thread.

I'm personally worried this morning as I've heard that two students ds goes to school with have just returned from Milan where cases have just rocketed.

#SPAIN --#coronavirus; 3 Suspected cases of #COVIDー19 in Valencia, Spain. They are 3 football fans returning from Italy with symptoms of coronavirus. They have been quarantined.

Just had an email from DD's nursery where she starts next week saying that if any parent or child who has been abroad anywhere develops symptoms, they need to inform the nursery and keep the child home.

Sounds like they're taking it pretty seriously, but I guess they can't afford to have to close

Has the city of Milan had many cases?

That's brilliant Meredith!

That's brilliant Meredith!

Not sure I share the enthusiasm.

At this point why do we think that only people who have travelled are at risk? Why is someone who has flown from Germany more at risk than someone who simply lives in Manchester?

I'm curious.

It's a bizarre policy

If they say any one with symptoms who has travelled, they may as well say simply anyone with symptoms.

Policy is nonsense.

It's not identifying risk. Just acting on mild xenophobic fears.

I’m curious as to why the UK hasn’t got many cases? Is it true we’re not testing many people and in stead are just telling people to self isolate?

Yet^....

@RedToothBrush Singapore has a hold on it, they have had barely any new cases, so the hot weather could be a factor there. Many people are suggesting this, not just Trump.

@idontusuallypanic I emailed a client of mine in Milan about 20 min ago, and he says things there are fine, and that the media are making it out to be worse than it is.

I’m curious as to why the UK hasn’t got many cases?

That should read

I’m curious as to why the UK hasn’t got many identified cases?

We either don't have cases or we don't have identified cases.

We don't know which at this point...

Singapore has a hold on it, they have had barely any new cases, so the hot weather could be a factor there. Many people are suggesting this, not just Trump.

Do how you do explain all the cases in the middle east.

Red I would have thought as an island, coronavirus can only get to us via people who have travelled or been with travellers?

How would someone in Manchester just get it?

Snow drop, passed on from someone else who has travelled. I'm sure we all know people that have travelled.

We either don't have cases or we don't have identified cases. We don't know which at this point...

Well.. we sort of do. We are one of the richest countries in the world with a significant amount of travel, a culture of feeling proud that we are working through illness (and spreading our germs) and no barriers preventing access to healthcare. We're not magic and we don't have a special British virus immunity. We have cases.

Singapore has a hold on it, they have had barely any new cases, so the hot weather could be a factor there.

More likely to be the fact Singapore has one of the very best health services in the world and is known for its efficiency.

Doesn't explain other countries which have a warm climate either.

Many people are suggesting this, not just Trump.

It's something thats generally true for viruses. However MERS (a cousin of Covid-19) certainly didn't follow this pattern. Nor did the Spanish flu pandemic which was also a novel virus with no one having immunity.

So I don't think there's any real science going on here. Just people pulling statements out if their arses.

I understand why we are meant to self isolate if we have been in close contact with someone who has visited one of the high risk areas, but surely it must have already happened that someone who travels on the rush hour tube twice a day in jam-packed conditions has unknowingly been in close contact with a stranger from one of the high risk areas, or indeed anywhere in the world, for an hour or more. I regularly get sneezed and coughed on on the tube. Is it not likely that this virus is amongst us already? Don't want to be a scaremonger, but this has been really playing on my mind.

Meredith it all seems fine bonkers to me.

I don't understand why unnecessary flights didn't just stop.

We have a colluege who is concerned that his wife's s cousin is arriving from oz via a few nights somewhere in Asia. He's really worried about her bringing the virus and they are wondering whether to ask her to quarantine herself and yet he seems unaware that another colluege has literally got a child back from an area very near wuhan.

That risk is far higher and if that child has it... And the relative who works for us does, an office of at least 22 is done for and about 600 staff...

Red, Singapore could be the combination of health care and heat.

Kettle I've been sneezed and coughed on multiple times today!

How would someone in Manchester just get it?

Really? Is this difficult to understand?

The same way some one from Italy who was in hospital (and therefore who hadn't travelled) got it maybe?

It only needs one person travelling for lots and lots of people to get it.

You don't even need to know someone who travelled to get it.

Just go full on 'Bacon's law' and the six degrees of separation.

We're not magic and we don't have a special British virus immunity.

Tbf, tea saved us from the full thrust of cholera and g&ts played a helpful hand in malaria, I can only hope fore my own sake that copious amounts of toast will work magic on the coronavirus.

And wealth as well would help Singapore as well

Red, Singapore could be the combination of health care and heat.

It's not exactly cold in Hong Kong...

I don't understand why unnecessary flights didn't just stop.

Because 'jobs'

Because 'indirect flights'

Because 'imports/exports'

I don't understand why this is hard to understand.

What are Hong Kong stats according to worldometers they are pretty similar to Singapore or am I missing something