To be worried about coronavirus part 4

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I'm personally worried this morning as I've heard that two students ds goes to school with have just returned from Milan where cases have just rocketed.

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I've advised various clients on this already and without exception so far they're all willing to treat it in the same way as sick leave
I’ve been a zero hour contract employee with no sick pay. I couldn’t afford to stay off sick unless I was literally dying. I’ve dragged myself to work numerous times when I was far too ill to be there. No way would I have stayed off work when I didn’t even feel poorly, just on the offchance I might have a virus. If you’re lucky enough to get statutory sick pay that’s still only £94 a week, not payable for the first three days. No way could I afford to lose 2/3 of my salary, I’d just go to work and keep quiet about the fact that I should be in quarantine.

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Thank you all. Agreed, it's not necessarily how it's affecting DD if she's not feeling ill and pretty healthy generally, but stopping the spread of the virus.

I'll ring 111 now

This is the problem, most people will have colds but in this situation self isolating is not overkill. I have family returning from northern Italy later and they are going to self isolate. I don’t understand why the guidelines are only if symptomatic when we know that this virus can be spread if asymptomatic 🤷‍♀️

Tenerife coronavirus: 1,000 guests at hotel quarantined

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/25/tenerife-coronavirus-guests-hotel-quarantined

I’ve been a zero hour contract employee with no sick pay. I couldn’t afford to stay off sick unless I was literally dying. I’ve dragged myself to work numerous times when I was far too ill to be there. No way would I have stayed off work when I didn’t even feel poorly, just on the offchance I might have a virus. If you’re lucky enough to get statutory sick pay that’s still only £94 a week, not payable for the first three days. No way could I afford to lose 2/3 of my salary, I’d just go to work and keep quiet about the fact that I should be in quarantine.

Although if you had the cash to be travelling around the world and therefore quarantine was warranted I suspect you wouldn't be in that situation.

Your attitude is appalling quite frankly. This is why areas get shut down. Because people can't be trusted to be responsible and to think of others as well as themselves.

I don’t understand why the guidelines are only if symptomatic when we know that this virus can be spread if asymptomatic 🤷‍♀️

I assume because of the numbers of people involved that will have returned from somewhere in Northern Italy in the last week or so (eps with it being half term). The numbers would be huge I would expect.

Knock, let us know what they say. Who did she travel with, what have they said? Self isolating means alone, given she has been with you I personally feel you need to isolate now too. Just my opinion, based on what I have read. I am a HCP and we had a patient who's family member travelled from an affected area and was advised to self isolate, she is staying with my patient despite that advice so infection control told me that should the relative develop any cold like symptoms, we must stay well away from the patient. We have to contact the patient in advance of all appointments to ask about the whole family's health (we visit the patient at their home). Therefore in your situation, I would also be being advised to not have contact with you right now, if you were my patient.

I am sure the chance of your dc being infected is low, but it is important that everyone takes responsibility for trying to curtail it, therefore until you are sure, it is best to take precautions.

I’m worried about travelling to Rome next Thursday for a long weekend. Currently there is no advice against travelling to Italy. And no cases in Rome. The city I live in (UK) has two patients in the main hospital with coronavirus (it’s a regional large hosptial so the patients are quite likely from further afield). I’m pregnant, first trimester.

Am I being daft worrying about this? I know no one can give me a definitive answer, and we just need to wait to see if the government advice changes.

I wouldn't be travelling to Italy unless it was absolutely essential acqui

Different people have different risk assessments. If I were going to Rome in say, 3 weeks time and there was no further spread from the current infected areas - I'd keep my plans.

If I were going to Rome in a week's time to get medical treatment, yeah - I'd risk it. But would I go in a week's time to soak up the atmosphere? no - fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Although if you had the cash to be travelling around the world and therefore quarantine was warranted I suspect you wouldn't be in that situation
When the virus was contained in long haul destinations I’d have agreed. But now it’s in Italy and Tenerife etc. Lots of people on low wages save up for a holiday or get treated by family, and shortly it’ll be in the UK too.

Your attitude is appalling quite frankly. This is why areas get shut down. Because people can't be trusted to be responsible and to think of others as well as themselves
It’s not about being responsible. It’s about priorities. When I was a ZHC worker my priority was making enough money to survive. I couldn’t afford to quarantine myself to protect others - I needed to work in order to eat. Many people are in that situation, they can’t afford to take even one day off work.

I think there are 3 cases in Rome?

Please can someone confirm - you have returned from a lockdown area in Northern Italy should you self isolate even if no systems.
I thought from www.gov.uk/guidance/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-information-for-the-public#contents
you did have to. School says not. But I can see it on that page!

Many people are in that situation, they can’t afford to take even one day off work

This is true, look at the number of people who flout the d&v rules for their kids so they can parcel them up to school and go to work. It won't be callousness (on the whole) just desperation.

Yes 3 in Rome

I've not heard that about Rome? Are you sure?

@acquiescence I would avoid Rome too, especially if pregnant. I think I would find myself stressed with the worry of catching the virus, and so wouldn't enjoy it so it wouldn't be worth taking the risk for?

DS's had a school trip 100 miles for the current outbreak. They have been told to self isolate if having symptoms but this advice has only been sent out to those on the trip. I called the school and they say they are not concerned as of the distance.

What if someone starts to become symptomatic in the next few days...surely self isolation would have been better if only as a precaution to stop any chance of it spreading.

I definitely wouldn't go to Rome then. I never knew they had cases

Anyone returning to the UK from parts of northern Italy now on lockdown must self-isolate. YoursTunbridgeWells the school is putting kids at risk if they’re ignoring government advice.

I've not long been back from rome. It's busy. I would be avoiding.