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Are people who treat their pets as children, when they have living children, a bit odd?

182 replies

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 08:09

I’ll start this thread by saying I’ve NC’d as I think my mother is actually on here, and I’m talking about people who have children who are ALIVE and available to see.

My M is an active member of a dog rescue group, she often holds large fundraising events, and sponsors dogs from foreign countries to be brought over here for a better life.
I have absolutely no issues with this at all, it makes her happy, and I always volunteer my time for the cause when her events are on.

However the group she is on, on FB, is full of bizarre posts when they use strange language such as ‘Hello Hoomins!’ and ‘I wuvs woo’ when posting as their pets, and refer to them as their children, fur babies and ‘dogters’.
They seem to spend all of their time with their animals, and that is fair enough if you don’t have children/grandchildren/other people in your life, however some of these have young children or grandchildren they could be spending time with.

My own mother has had 4 dogs, 3 from the rescue she fundraisers for, and she is guilty of treating her pets as children.

Actually, they’re prioritised and treated better than her two children.
She’s not suffered a loss of a child or had them there as a way of coping about another loss, so no it’s nothing like that, that’s a totally different kettle of fish so I’m not interested in those stories.

2 died recently, a ratty little one who hated everybody except her (not through lack of trying) and a childhood dog who we all felt the loss of.
Now she has gone into a depressed state of mourning.
Weirdly, she didn’t even mourn her own father like this. He’s still in the plastic jar he came back from the crematorium in.

One of the people she knows from the group posted on her wall when her birthday cake around saying how she was sorry she wouldn’t have her babies with her on her special day. I have to say I was a bit confused, as she has two ACTUAL children she would be spending time with in the day.
She has a shrine for the dogs with pictures and candles scattered about, and they sit on a shelf in wooden boxes.
She’s had pretty much every day to see her children and grandchildren, but makes excuses regarding her dogs as to why she cannot go out/meet up/have visitors, come over.
I understand that after a while, pets are seen as part of the family, but to prioritise them above your actual children is baffling to me!
I have a pet and whilst I love him dearly, and would be heartbroken should he die, I wouldn’t choose them over my children.

So, I thought I’d put this out there and add a poll, I’m expecting to be slaughtered as I know a great majority of MN are avid animal lovers.

YABU - People who treat their dogs as children, despite having their own, are perfectly normal.
YANBU - People who treat their pets as children, despite having their own, are a bit odd.

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TheNoodlesIncident · 24/02/2020 09:58

Wallowinginfilth It's certainly true that a lot of people find animals easier to be around than other people. I for one find animals' body language to be a LOT easier to "read" than people's, and they certainly aren't going to be saying "Oh, we MUST meet up" when they actually think "I don't want to meet up". Grin I do think a lot of people who become reclusive and only talk to their cat or budgie are probably more socially awkward and are tired of struggling to understand people.

That I can understand, the whole treating the pet as a human who understands all you say to them is less easy for me to comprehend.

And people who don't train their pets, especially dogs who are out mixing with people, are a massive pain in the arse. A well trained dog is a lovely thing and no bother to anyone; an untrained dog is just a nightmare and a danger to itself, never mind others.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:00

It’s fine @IronShame I didn’t think you were calling me a Nob.
Though I’m sure many may think me unfeeling towards animals, I do love them in general.
Not her ratty, horrible dog though, but I feel she loved him the most as she has a similar personality. Small, snappy and abused.

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Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:02

@AmazingGreats - To blow off events is the kind of extremes I mean. My M would only come to my DSis’s wedding if she could bring the smallest one. I mean, come on!

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Potatobug · 24/02/2020 10:02

I am afraid it goes both ways OP. You find soppy animal lovers weird but you can bet they find soppy child-loving humans weird.
For a lot of people it is very difficult to love kids as they can be tiring, loud, messy, demanding, stroppy, ungrateful, criticising, mean and rude.
Your mum is probably relieved that all those years of raising kids are behind her, and now she can love a much less complicated creature that loves her back unconditionally. Not everybody enjoys motherhood. What are you going to do about it?

Wallowinginfilth · 24/02/2020 10:04

Ok sorry IronShame

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:05

@Limensoda - I was reading the other day an article by a child psychologist, who said the high-pitched song-song voice parents do is actually beneficial to a baby, it’s called parentese or something. I was surprised in all honesty.

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IrmaFayLear · 24/02/2020 10:06

I know loads of people who really dislike animals yet are very kind, loving, reliable people.

Actually, I don't know a single one. Every person I meet who doesn't like animals full stop has something missing. I understand people being wary of animals, or not necessarily wanting a pet, but those who actively dislike them are, in my opinion, not at heart good people and certainly not kind.

Wallowinginfilth · 24/02/2020 10:06

Do pets love you unconditionally though? What would happen if you stopped feeding them do you think?

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:07

@Potatobug - Trust me, she revelled in doing the least for us possible, it wasn’t particularly hard for her. If it was, she should have stopped at me, though I love my DSis dearly and can’t imagine where I’d be without her.

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10FrozenFingers · 24/02/2020 10:08

Anyone who treats pets like children is odd.

I get loving pets but they are animals, not people.

Beau20 · 24/02/2020 10:09

I've not read the entire thread and my response is only half relevant BUT.

I have a dog, mine and OHs first dog. We have no kids. I love that dog to bits. However I cringe at and despise when anyone sets up an instagram for their dog, talks as if they were their dog, saying stuff like 'hoomans' 'I lubs you' 'mlem mlem' (apparently this is some sort of dog kissing/licking noise) 'mines wants to *' (mines being dog for I want to etc etc) and also when ANYONE refers to their pet as a 'furbaby'

It's annoying, really annoying. Stop it.

IronShame · 24/02/2020 10:10

People really think it's absolutely okay to care more about your dog than your children?

I don't think it's that at all. I certainly don't think it's okay to love and treat your dog better than your kids.

But I do think OP maybe sees this in other animal lovers when it isn't there because of the experience she has had with her mother.

I personally don't think anything that has been described (cringey social media posts, dressing your dog up, treating them like a child, being invested in an annual event about your animal) means that someone doesn't love their kids as much as said pet. Okay maybe it's not the 'norm' for a lot of people and people think it's odd, but I don't think you could possibly judge someone's relationship with their children from any of those things without properly knowing them, outside of a Facebook group or an event that's about dogs.

How do you know these people aren't also in a Facebook group about being a parent? Or that they don't spend the next weekend at their child's trampolining competition etc...? You just don't. So I don't think it's fair to judge off the things that have been described here when really, you barely know anything about the people you're talking about.

Limensoda · 24/02/2020 10:11

@05Namechangeforthehellofit

Yes, I know the way a mother talks to her baby in a higher pitched voice is good....I was talking about when they still do this when the child is a toddler, or even older.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:11

I’m also shocked by how level the vote is, I thought for sure it’s be 80/20.

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Arthritica · 24/02/2020 10:12

Treating them like children is ridiculous. Respect the species. Dogs (cats, horses, guinea pigs) don't need mummies and daddies, they need appropriate care, stimulation, boundaries, interaction etc. And they don't need outfits.

IronShame · 24/02/2020 10:17

YABU - People who treat their dogs as children, despite having their own, are perfectly normal. YANBU - People who treat their pets as children, despite having their own, are a bit odd

I think the vote would have been more unanimous if it had been clearer what you were asking. You aren't asking about people who treat their pets like kids, when they have kids. You're asking about people who treat their pets better than their kids. I don't think the two are the same.

I don't think anyone would agree that its okay for someone to treat their pet better than their children.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:17

@IronShame - It’s an annual event but the planning and other smaller events go on year round.

They invest a very large chunk of their lives to the cause which is lovely, but when it is 4/5 days a week they meet or plan, plus the FB groups, WhatsApp chats, seasonal ‘walked’ (think Easter, Halloween, Christmas etc) and weekend visits to a rescue, it seems too much?
I feel like the 20/25% I mention have their children taking a backseat to their pets and pet related hobby, and that’s what baffles me.

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Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:19

@ironshame - I seem to just be @‘ing you all the time. Ha!
It probably would be, sadly I can’t amend the post now, however I’m sure many people have favourite children, the pet would be there’s in this instance. Let’s look at it like that.

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Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:20

@Limensoda - Oh yes, that sort of thing is tedious. And unnecessary.

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Hepsibar · 24/02/2020 10:21

It does seem excessive but what harm does it do.

It's all v safe love ... love at a distance from an animal which gives unconditional and v easy love ... might find human relationships and all the dynamics tricky.

Suspect she will go down in family history as the mad dog lady!

HavelockVetinari · 24/02/2020 10:26

That's awful @notnowmaybelater what did you do? I hope you didn't stay in the house, your poor toddler. Your parents and sister are bonkers.

IronShame · 24/02/2020 10:30

They invest a very large chunk of their lives to the cause which is lovely, but when it is 4/5 days a week they meet or plan, plus the FB groups, WhatsApp chats, seasonal ‘walked’ (think Easter, Halloween, Christmas etc) and weekend visits to a rescue, it seems too much?

I agree it's a lot. Not something I'd be doing personally. But then how many threads do we see on here where the DH has a hobby that takes him away X nights a week, to this place or that etc...

I just don't think it's that uncommon to be invested in your hobby/something you're passionate about whatever that may be. The 'weird, odd, freak, cringey' labels only ever seem to come out when it's about animals though.

IronShame · 24/02/2020 10:34

And maybe I am weird but I think visiting a rescue at the weekend is lovely Blush I've volunteered at animal shelters and rescues myself, I feel good bringing a little bit of joy to their day as they aren't nice places for dogs/cats to be. There's one round the corner from us actually that take care of farm animals that have been abandoned. Me and the kids regularly go over their with bits and bobs, just to see the animals etc...

I couldn't get too worked up about the weekend rescue visits. It's only like volunteering for any other charity at the weekend.

notnowmaybelater · 24/02/2020 10:36

HavelockVetinari no we stayed in the garden, in the rain, under the sunshade. It was such a farce, I was blindsided by the fact my parents couldn't see how ridiculous and nasty it was. When I was a child my parents had pets but weren't as sentimental and indulgent of them; it's certainly become more extreme over the years. Neither of my parents had pets as children and I sometimes think that's why they've gone totally overboard with them as adults. However my sister grew up in a menagerie and wasn't even that interested in the dogs as a child. I have no idea why her dog ranks above her children and everyone else. It wasn't even her first dog who predated her children, but her second, a couple of years old at the time and younger than her children.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 10:36

@notnowmaybelater - I must have missed you post initially, how awful! I’m so sorry, your poor toddler.

@ironshame - Well I wouldn’t call them wonderful either. I guess it’s easier to say it’s odd or the like, when it’s another living creature they are seemingly obsessed with.
If someone started to dress up/post as/baby talk to their bike/car/golf clubs I’d be saying exactly the same.

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