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Are people who treat their pets as children, when they have living children, a bit odd?

182 replies

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 08:09

I’ll start this thread by saying I’ve NC’d as I think my mother is actually on here, and I’m talking about people who have children who are ALIVE and available to see.

My M is an active member of a dog rescue group, she often holds large fundraising events, and sponsors dogs from foreign countries to be brought over here for a better life.
I have absolutely no issues with this at all, it makes her happy, and I always volunteer my time for the cause when her events are on.

However the group she is on, on FB, is full of bizarre posts when they use strange language such as ‘Hello Hoomins!’ and ‘I wuvs woo’ when posting as their pets, and refer to them as their children, fur babies and ‘dogters’.
They seem to spend all of their time with their animals, and that is fair enough if you don’t have children/grandchildren/other people in your life, however some of these have young children or grandchildren they could be spending time with.

My own mother has had 4 dogs, 3 from the rescue she fundraisers for, and she is guilty of treating her pets as children.

Actually, they’re prioritised and treated better than her two children.
She’s not suffered a loss of a child or had them there as a way of coping about another loss, so no it’s nothing like that, that’s a totally different kettle of fish so I’m not interested in those stories.

2 died recently, a ratty little one who hated everybody except her (not through lack of trying) and a childhood dog who we all felt the loss of.
Now she has gone into a depressed state of mourning.
Weirdly, she didn’t even mourn her own father like this. He’s still in the plastic jar he came back from the crematorium in.

One of the people she knows from the group posted on her wall when her birthday cake around saying how she was sorry she wouldn’t have her babies with her on her special day. I have to say I was a bit confused, as she has two ACTUAL children she would be spending time with in the day.
She has a shrine for the dogs with pictures and candles scattered about, and they sit on a shelf in wooden boxes.
She’s had pretty much every day to see her children and grandchildren, but makes excuses regarding her dogs as to why she cannot go out/meet up/have visitors, come over.
I understand that after a while, pets are seen as part of the family, but to prioritise them above your actual children is baffling to me!
I have a pet and whilst I love him dearly, and would be heartbroken should he die, I wouldn’t choose them over my children.

So, I thought I’d put this out there and add a poll, I’m expecting to be slaughtered as I know a great majority of MN are avid animal lovers.

YABU - People who treat their dogs as children, despite having their own, are perfectly normal.
YANBU - People who treat their pets as children, despite having their own, are a bit odd.

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Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:16

@IronShame - I agree my POV is probably clouded by my situation, just as all opinions are based on life experiences, but I don’t think the actual initial question is marred by my experience, unless you class my further posts as drip feeds. They weren’t intended to be a drip feed btw, I don’t want people to base their vote on my personal problems.

I’m genuinely interested in other people’s perceptions on the matter, though my initial post came from one of frustration.

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Hester54 · 24/02/2020 09:16

Some people just prefer their pets to their children, that’s not hard to understand

JKScot4 · 24/02/2020 09:21

To be blunt, why does it bother you? Why do you want a relationship with an abusive person?
How your DM lives her life is none of your business, would you as an adult like your DC making nasty comments about how you live?
I will never understand the countless threads on MN of adults trying to cling onto a relationship with abusive parents, walk away and get on with life.

isabellerossignol · 24/02/2020 09:22

Some people just prefer their pets to their children, that’s not hard to understand

But it's hard to understand why they had children in those circumstances.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:22

@picklesdragonisawelshdragon - So, by your logic, I’m also damaged.

And yet I have healthy relationships with many people, including my DH and my own DC. Its not down to professional help either that I have managed to do so, as that came much later, just sheer determination not to lash out and hurt people.

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IronShame · 24/02/2020 09:22

Well in answer to your original question then, I don't think there are that many people who treat their pets like children and who put them above their actual children.

Just treat them like children and maybe act a bit cringey on social media/talk about them a lot etc... ? Yes. But actually put them above their kids in the way you've described your mother does? No, I don't think there are that many people who do that. And I don't think it's possible for you to know how many people on these Facebook groups etc... Are the former or the latter just because they post a picture of their dog in a jumper and call it a furbaby. That doesn't mean anything and it certainly doesn't tell me anything about their relationship with their children.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:25

@JKScot4 - I didn’t say I was looking for more than I have? I’m happy with helping out when asked, and I am relatively LC. My sister is a different story.
If I was acting like my M then yes, I would want my children to tell me how I’m acting is odd.

@Hester54 - Yes, it is.

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Canadianpancake · 24/02/2020 09:27

This thread really has very little to do with how strangers view their pets and a lot to do with your issues with your mother.

Yabu to judge anyone, it doesn't effect you in the slightest.

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:27

@IronShame - After seeing these people at events, I can say at least a good 20/25% are similar, whether with or without the abuse I don’t know, but I feel for their small children who are being ignored on the day and possibly a fair bit in other circumstances.

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LikeDuhWhatever · 24/02/2020 09:29

Love is love, no matter what/who you are directing it at. Just because a creature is not a human you can still love them very deeply. Dogs, cats etc..are amazing creatures and it’s quite unique that animals that are supposed to be wild can live in harmony and friendship with another wild animal (us). You can get so much love from a pet, sometimes more than from another person.
I think we humans, being on top of the food chain, are responsible for other creatures, and we can only do that job properly if we love them.
I will never understand people who don’t love animals or are indifferent to them (I am not suggesting you are one of these people)

isabellerossignol · 24/02/2020 09:30

Yabu to judge anyone, it doesn't effect you in the slightest.

I think it's fine to judge people who mistreat their children. Which was what the OP was talking about really.

Hester54 · 24/02/2020 09:30

isabellerossignol How do you know you are going to like having children or being a parent to you actually have or are, not everyone is cut out to be a parent, doesn’t mean you hate or hurt your children before you ask, sometimes your children when they grow up are hard to like

MummySharn · 24/02/2020 09:30

I think this is much more to do with the issues you have with your mum than the way strangers act towards their pets

Hester54 · 24/02/2020 09:30

Namechangeforthehellofit Have you children?

Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:33

@Canadianpancake - You’re right, my personal experience seems to have taken over, which is a shame and not my intention.
However we all pass judgement on things that don’t interfere with our own lives every day, let’s not kid ourselves in that we don’t. I can think what I please, though as pointed out it’s probably coloured by experience.

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Namechangeforthehellofit · 24/02/2020 09:33

@Hester54 - Yes, as mentioned previously.

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Flufferbum · 24/02/2020 09:34

The vote is exactly 50/50!!!

FizzyIce · 24/02/2020 09:34

The weird pet talk like the ones you get on funny dog videos turns my stomach.
Like you said ,the “hoomans” and other stuff like their pet is talking, it’s just batshit .
My mums life revolves around her 2 dogs but she doesn’t post things about them being her kids or think of them as her “fur babies” shudder so I can’t get too bothered .
My sister and I joke that she’s spoils them more than she ever did us

IronShame · 24/02/2020 09:34

After seeing these people at events, I can say at least a good 20/25% are similar, whether with or without the abuse I don’t know, but I feel for their small children who are being ignored on the day and possibly a fair bit in other circumstances

Are we talking about events that are for their pets here? How is that a fair way to judge how a person treats their children in day to day life? Of course a dog is going to be centre of attention at a dog show, for example.

I don't think you can really say anything about strangers after meeting them once at a certain event. As I say, I feel your opinion on this subject is clouded by your own experience and I think you are confusing people who just care a lot about their pets (and show it in a way you find odd), with people who care more about them than their other family members.

Hingeandbracket · 24/02/2020 09:36

YANBU FWIW I think people who treat their pets as children are fucking weird whether they have kids or not.

isabellerossignol · 24/02/2020 09:36

Hester54

I think people usually know. Loads of animal lovers never have children, or even relationships, because they know that animals are their priority.

My sister always said that animals were her biggest priority in life, yet chose to have 3 children and neglected them. The first was unplanned, so that horse had bolted but she actually planned the other two, despite being quite open about preferring dogs. I think that's cruelty of the highest order.

Flufferbum · 24/02/2020 09:37

For me, animals can give a love and understanding that another human just can’t give. Their love can truly be unconditional. Therefore I understand how your mother feels, because I genuinely think I give my darling dog more time, love and patience than I have seen many parents give their children. I can only hope that I am as good of a mother as I am a dog owner. I appreciate that you might find it weird. I used to get upset that my mother loved the dog more than me, when I was younger. Which is odd I know.

vodkaredbullgirl · 24/02/2020 09:37

Weird dog person here.

IronShame · 24/02/2020 09:37

I think people who judge other people that they know nothing about for something completely harmless to them are nobs.

Rocketpants50 · 24/02/2020 09:38

I agree, my parents have a dog which they adore, since getting it there is very little contact with the grandchildren as they are so busy with the dog. Am actually very sad about it and when they got it I raised my issues then, my dd has a fear of large dogs, it used to be all dogs but we are working on it. Its huge, jumps at you, knocked my ds over. My dd is scared, my parents say he is just playful and it will be fine, it's not. I dont think it would purposely hurt, it's just v big and v boisterous and plays rough. My dd refuses to go to their house now. My parents rarely ask after the grandchildren yet I get lots of photos of their little boy!