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If you know you snore, don't sleep on a coach?

162 replies

sazapple · 21/02/2020 19:23

I might be being unreasonable.

Just got back from a three hour coach journey. A guy to the left of me was snoring the WHOLE way. It was one of those horrible snores, it made me feel quite sick 🤮. His wife didn't say anything or nudge him.

I know he could well have had health issues that make him snore. But Aibu to think that ypu shouldn't plan on sleeping in a small space if you snore that loud. Or whoever your with should wake you? I'm pretty sure that this was their only travel today and they arnt jet lagged or anything.

I may be being precious!

OP posts:
PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 13:57

you’re really invested in having me in the wrong, but since you ask:

what were we’re talking about then there was a bit of eye rolling (and sniggering every time there was a pig like grunt) but mostly we chatted about where we were going and where we’d come from. I chatted to the pregnant lady about the arrival of her baby and the Swiss/Australian couple about their plans for their trip and how they split their time in both countries. You know polite conversation.

you think it’s ok for the rest of you to talk yep I think talking on planes is generally accepted to be ok Grin

The entire rest of the plane was awake not the entire plane but everyone in our cabin, which was about 12 or so. I think one of the children eventually fell asleep watching a movie and a chap whose wife told me had taken his hearing aids out.

The rest of us were just fine with chatting and walking.

reginafelangee · 22/02/2020 14:01

i) asking the crew to wake him if he was noisy
ii) drinking less before he got on plane
iii) setting an alarm to wake him after a few hours
iv) lying his seat flat

It doesn't sound like this is a condition you understand or have much knowledge of.

If I was your snoring fellow passenger then

  1. this wouldn't make a difference sorry I'd just fall asleep again
  2. I don't drink
  3. see answer 1 plus this would be an extra annoyance to other passengers
  4. I can't afford to travel first class and anyway lying flat on my back makes my snoring worse
FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 14:02

everyone in our cabin, which was about 12 or so.

Was this first class? Is that why you are suggesting to lie the seat flat? and expect the world to spin in your direction

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 14:03

Ooh more questions implying I was unreasonable - it’s like being cross examined!

who was sitting next to him the seat configuration was such that he was in a single seat with no one immediately next to him.

how do I know he’d been drinking because I was sat near him in the lounge

lie flat seats where?! This is not an unusual concept on many planes Confused

I assumed most people didn’t snore as badly if lying on side as opposed to reclined back.

As for the alarm I think we’d all have preferred a periodic alarm as opposed to 10 hours of relentless noise.

Any more?!

FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 14:06

lie flat seats where?! This is not an unusual concept on many planes

In first class. Not in cattle class where most of us travel.

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 14:19

In first class. Not in cattle class where most of us travel

You’re sounding chippy now. In their particular example the individual concerned had the option to lie flat. I was quite clear I was talking about a specific scenario not a general one Hmm

ShinyRuby · 22/02/2020 14:22

@FlamingoAndJohn
I think you must be the big snoring stranger on the plane really as you're determined to get answers from poor Pegasus.
If I'm wrong then why on earth does this does this matter to you so much??😄
A disgrace to flamingos.
OP, YADNBU, it sounds a hideous racket.

FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 14:39

No I’m not. But I am someone who snores and is occasionally selfish enough to leave the house.
I’d much sooner someone woke me up than complained about it all over a forum.

lostinleaves · 22/02/2020 15:00

People walking about and moaning is far more selfish that one man doing something that he had no idea he was doing and was out of his control

Especially as it was for seven hours !

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 15:04

@lostinleaves

Could you explain how chatting and camaraderie in the circumstances I described are selfish?!

Spoiler: they’re not

FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 15:10

Could you explain how chatting and camaraderie in the circumstances I described are selfish?!

Can you explain how a man doing something outside his control and no one telling him he’s doing it or asking him to stop is selfish?

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 15:45

Can you explain how a man doing something outside his control and no one telling him he’s doing it or asking him to stop is selfish?

I covered that. He didn’t need to be told he snores. No one snores like a walrus crossed with a pneumatic drill without being aware. He knew.

Not taking steps to mitigate the discomfort he causes other people is the definition of selfish. There were myriad things he could have done - maybe they wouldn’t have helped but he didn’t even bother to try.

Your turn

Fr0g · 22/02/2020 15:49

if you're that precious, don't travel by coach.

FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 15:54

He didn’t need to be told he snores. No one snores like a walrus crossed with a pneumatic drill without being aware. He knew.

I snore. I don’t hear myself snoring. If it wasn’t for my dh poking me and telling me then I wouldn’t know.
Several people have told you why your ways to prevent it wouldn’t have worked.
One of the 12 people in you cabin could have woken him up but you chose not to.

Your turn.

lostinleaves · 22/02/2020 15:57

Could you explain how chatting and camaraderie in the circumstances I described are selfish?!

You are trying to relax and there are people walking up and down past you all the times, it's annoying. If you want privacy, as I needed on a plane flight recently it's doubly annoying.

vhs95 · 22/02/2020 15:58

Returning to the OP's post about snoring on a coach, MOH slept (and snored) during the whole Amalfi coach tour. He missed it all. He was sat next to me in the window seat so had the better view as well 🤣🤣🤣. The chap in front of him also slept and snored and he sounded like pigs grunting. Fortunately the noise of the tour guide drowned them both out!

saraclara · 22/02/2020 15:59

He didn’t need to be told he snores. No one snores like a walrus crossed with a pneumatic drill without being aware. He knew.

I've already told you that I had no idea that I snored until I went on holiday and shared a room with a friend.
The clue is that people snore when they're ASLEEP.

saraclara · 22/02/2020 16:00

...and yes, I very much would prefer people to wake me or nudge me, rather than moan about me for seven hours.

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 16:05

Saraclara are you being deliberately obtuse?!

None of the other 7/8 passengers in the cabin could sleep (except the one who’d taken their hearing aids out). We were all awake. Because of the noise. so we stood about, chatted and drank and tried to make the best of the situation. No one was disturbing anyone or annoying anyone.

We were however all being disturbed and annoyed by one selfish sod.

saraclara · 22/02/2020 16:08

What am I being obtuse about? I've said that people who snore don't always know they snore. I didn't. We're asleep when we do it so how would we know?

And you all had the option of waking him or nudging him (without him even knowing you'd done it), which I very much hope people would do if it was me snoring. The last thing I want to do is annoy anyone for hours.

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 16:10

The clue is that people snore when they're ASLEEP it’s somewhat contradictory to try and argue that people don’t know they snore when you’ve stated that you know you snore as have many other posters Confused

This particular chap snored so loudly that he woke himself up with his snorting and grunting.

saraclara · 22/02/2020 16:13

The clue is that people snore when they're ASLEEP it’s somewhat contradictory to try and argue that people don’t know they snore when you’ve stated that you know you snore as have many other posters

Are you even reading my posts? I've said several times that I didn't know that I snored until I shared a room with a friend. That friend told me I snored, obviously. Other posters have said that they only know because their partners have told them.

I think you're the one being obtuse, frankly.

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 16:15

Sorry Saraclara I got you confused with lostinleaves who was being obtuse trying to argue that our chatting and walking around was more disturbing than a guy snoring. It wasn’t.

FlamingoAndJohn · 22/02/2020 16:15

it’s somewhat contradictory to try and argue that people don’t know they snore when you’ve stated that you know you snore as have many other posters

I know I snore because my DH has told me. If I lived alone then I wouldn’t know. Why can you not understand that?

So you all stood about complaining rather than just wake him up? You were frightened of him but what would he have done to all of you?

PegasusReturns · 22/02/2020 16:18

Yes I’m reading your posts - the point is now you know you snore .

But you’d prefer to believe that a man who snores so loudly that it would be impossible for anyone in the vicinity to sleep and to wake himself up is totally unaware. I think that’s unrealistic.

Most people have slept with a partner, in a shared house or near their children at some point. It must be far more unusual to have never done so. But you’re determined to defend the unlikely?

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