To think that this country is utterly corrupt?

[bingbangbing]

After the Sabinsky scandal, I can't help but think this.

This government was elected on a pack of lies, I think we all know that there will not be 40 new hospitals etc

Even before Boris took over, we had Hancock giving speeches from the HQ of Babylon.

The attacks on the media are nothing short of dictatorial- the gov is going after the BBC and has made threatening noises towards C4.

We were one of the most respected governments- the mother of all parliaments, an old and stable country. Famous for reason and restraint.

What the fuck happened?

Proroguing Parliament? Refusing to do media interviews? A policy of not allowing ministers to appear on the Today programme? Threatening the BBC? Emasculating the courts and removing the right to judicial review? Kicking MPs out of the party

I see. That's not silencing disagreement, that's mostly refusing to do business, quite rightly, with the BBC. Which MPs were kicked out of the party?

The 21 MPs who had the whip retracted in December, including the Father of the House and Churchill’s grandson. Have you been asleep for the last three years too?

Then how would you know? The left think the reverse is true which indicates to me it gets it about right

I watch and subscribe to several political commentators (both left and right) on various social media platforms.

200,000 people stopped paying their licence last year, they didn't do that because of Right Wing bias.

The 21 MPs who had the whip retracted in December, including the Father of the House and Churchill’s grandson. Have you been asleep for the last three years too

You said "kicked out of the party" That's not the same thing I'm afraid.

'Famous for reason and restraint' erm we did a lot of atrocities you know?

Do you have anything I can read to reference your point?

Nicky Morgan's speech to [insert gap in knowledge here] quite clearly laid out an attack line to the BB C, essentially recommending a Netflix style business model which would end the BBC as we know it.

IMO, the BBC is an anti-British, Left wing mouth piece

Disagree completely. Others say the BBC is too uncritical of certain aspects of British life and culture, e.g. the monarchy or the Union. Both positions can't be right - both can be wrong, however.t

What examples of anti-Britishness have i missed?

200,000 people stopped paying their TV license because of political bias? I doubt it somehow, more like they wanted to save £150.

You said "kicked out of the party" That's not the same thing I'm afraid

Yes it is. They were no longer allowed to run for the party in their constituencies, hence some of them standing as independents.

What examples of anti-Britishness have i missed

You really have to watch that CBBC espisode with Mr Kumar.

^Yes it is*

They were suspended.

They were kicked out. Ffs, you really can’t argue with stupid.

I doubt it somehow, more like they wanted to save £150

No doubt some of them did, but 200,000 in one year? That's unheard of.

They were kicked out. Ffs, you really can’t argue with stupid

This, is very true.

You really have to watch that CBBC espisode with Mr Kumar.

I'll take a leap and assume it's about colonialism / empire?

Nicky Morgan's speech to [insert gap in knowledge here] quite clearly laid out an attack line to the BB C, essentially recommending a Netflix style business model which would end the BBC as we know it

I truly hope that's how it ends up. No offence.

I'll take a leap and assume it's about colonialism / empire

It's 20 minutes of Nish telling kids that nothing is British.

Interestingly SAS (the airline) just did the same thing with one of their adverts - referring to the Sweden - not the British, obviously.

I truly hope that's how it ends up. No offence.

None taken, but my point was it seems a glaring inconsistency to accuse the left of traducing things we hold dear, yet cheer when the right does the same?

None taken, but my point was it seems a glaring inconsistency to accuse the left of traducing things we hold dear, yet cheer when the right does the same

I see your point. However, I wouldn't have a problem with the BBC doing what they do they do, or how I perceive what they do, if it wasn't a state funded project. People don't pay the Left to be Anti British and they shouldn't have to fund the BBC to be Anti British.

For a little more context, the BBC obviously chose to run that episode of Horrible Histories on the 31st of January on purpose.

What really irks me about it is that so much of the propaganda was factually incorrect.

I love the fact that, that is the best example of anti-Britishness you can come up with, @SammySmyth

Warms my historians heart 😎

Surely there has been no greater example of anti-Britishness in recent years than the Mail's "Enemies of the People" headline - a direct and damaging assault on British institutions and values?

You're missing the point. The Daily Mail isn't funded by the public and people potentially don't go to prison for not paying the tax.

I'd really rather have had a decisive no deal than the months of indecision and sniping we did have

Tempting to think that way but reality will bite hard and I suspect no one will think "i'd rather have no deal" for very long.

Having said that, if we don't get a deal with the EU then I hope we won't get a quick US deal either. Better to have no deal with anyone until (hopefully) the tide turns and we get a sensible government again which would still be free to change course on the relationship with the EU.

I’m living in a country close to the Uk and I was taken aback by the level of corruption here compared to the uk. It’s so rife and no one questions it.

There are broken promises and ineptitude and incorrect ‘facts’ - but not corruption on the scale I see elsewhere.