to be worried about coronavirus part 3

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starting this in case ivybush is busy

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Yes it is wherearemychickens its starting to escalate

Case in Milan. Up to 62 in Italy now.

WTF is going on with the BBC though? Nothing about Italy whatsoever in the headlines on the website. South korea get a mention and the DP passengers but you'd think nothing had happened in Italy. Its ok though because there's a headline about a Friends reuniting episode

This makes me really worry about what we are told.

Italy are reporting 16 serious cases, which is more than Japan & South Korea combined. Doesn’t this seem odd?
Does it mean there must be many more undetected mild cases in Italy?

They’ve been talking about it on radio 4.

Unfortunately radio 4 is not where the masses get their news (although the country would be better off if they did)

@wherearemychickens What did John Campbell say?

here it is Ivy

Basically that it does seem to have shifted up a gear now, and we are looking at the early stages of a global pandemic, and also some things that he's heard from people he knows in Iran that sounded worrying - doctors there being worried by seeing a rapid deterioration in some people.

Also its the lack of information from some countries like North Korea that state they have no cases at all.

Yes, I am going to insist that DD1 sees a doctor tomorrow (have vague recollection that french doctors will pitch out to see anyone, anytime, as long as you can pay). Whether she will of course, I don't know, given that she is 23. But really her company ought to be listening.

WTF is going on with the BBC though? Nothing about Italy whatsoever in the headlines on the website

I'm all for avoiding panic and dramatic headlines, but the absence of any reporting at all is weird.

The most cases / deaths in Europe, 10 towns, 50,000 people, placed in precautionary voluntary quarantine, schools, workplaces, municipal and private offices, 3 train stations, coffee shops, and public places closed.

Yet there's absolutely no mention of any of this.

Italy are reporting 16 serious cases, which is more than Japan & South Korea combined. Doesn’t this seem odd?
Does it mean there must be many more undetected mild cases in Italy?

It's add, they also restricted flights from China early on, unless I remember wrongly.

If she's in a ski resort yolo its generally pretty easy to get in to see a doctor if you can pay. We've always found they have lots around in resort due to the number of ski injuries they have.

Do more people from Wuhan go to Italy than come here to the UK? Seem surprising that London isn’t ramping up to the same extent.

The NHS is at the point of collapse as it is.

thanks hasa her place is slightly out of town, so she would have to get on a bus to see anyone. I mean, I dont think she actually has corona, but she potentially could and that is worrying everyway you look at it.
Also, all the other girls in her flat have had/are having the same thing, but not so badly.

I think the lack of media coverage is patronising in part but also concerning given how determinedly we tell ourselves that they love to exaggerate.

Stats on outbound Chinese tourism here
www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/china-outbound-tourists-visit-and-spending-report-2019---forecast-to-2025-for-the-365-billion-industry-300925281.html

Iran and Italy don’t feature at all

www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-22/coronavirus-hobbles-supply-chains-from-watches-to-lobsters?__twitter_impression=true
The Virus Is Interrupting Supply Chains From Watches to Lobsters
Chaos reigns from the high seas to the factory floor after key manufacturers in China shut down or ships are held in port.

Good read on the economic impact

The lack of reports of cases in Indonesia, the Philippines, Pakistan and North Korea are the ones you want to be worried about.

High flight traffic / shared borders / close trade links are where there are most likely to be cases.

None of these countries are reporting what you'd expect from what's happening elsewhere.

its on this list, but number 21

skift.com/2013/09/03/top-25-most-popular-destinations-for-chinese-tourists/

It's getting serious today, it's clear that the virus has reached across the globe and it will continue to escalate in different areas as it has in Iran and Italy.

I completely agree with Dr John Campbell. We already struggle with winter flu - we do not have the resources to deal with a pandemic. A huge number of ITU beds will be required.

Even in today’s print Guardian, there’s no mention of CV until page 20

I guess at the moment though the situation in the UK hasnt changed and they want to shy away from causing too much panic.

And for those who want to find the information it is out there. My surgery sent out a text, local schools have posters up etc

I know - why no coverage? Italy have declaired a state of emergency and locked down 10 towns. They aren't that far away from us.