AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

This is interesting - attached screenshot ofatest update from Wuhan hospital now tryially intravenous vitamin c in super high doses.

I would be upping my own vitamin c I take myself but in the quantities they are talking it can trigger miscarries. So I won’t be doing it myself just yet

Hoping screenshot will attach soon

Notstrongandstable
I think i would be doing the same if it were my dc school.

Ds2 has awful Asthma and has been on steriods 4 times in the last 8 months and ended up in hospital a month ago,Dh's Asthma is not much better and i am on immunosuppressant's.

Was anyone else surprised by the "super-spreader" going public today? If it was his decision I have respect for it. I probably would have accepted PHE just giving clear and precise information on his whereabouts during the relevant period, although I suppose that would probably have led to finger pointing anyway.

From Cochrane
www.cochrane.org/CD005532/ARI_vitamin-c-for-preventing-and-treating-pneumonia
Vitamin C for preventing and treating pneumonia

We looked for studies in humans and found three trials with a total of 2335 participants that looked at whether vitamin C prevents pneumonia in the community. Two of these preventive trials studied soldiers while the third studied boys in a UK boarding school in the 1940s. Two therapeutic trials with a total of 197 pneumonia patients looked at whether vitamin C might be beneficial for pneumonia patients. One studied patients aged 66 to 94 years in the UK with pneumonia. The other therapeutic trial was conducted in the former Soviet Union but the social and nutritional backgrounds of the patients were not described. One study with 37 burns patients examined the effect of vitamin C on hospital-acquired pneumonia. Our searches were up-date-as of April 2013.

Five of the identified trials found preventive or therapeutic benefits of vitamin C against pneumonia but the study on hospital-acquired pneumonia found no effect. The overall quality of the studies was good. However, the five trials with positive findings were carried out in such extraordinary conditions that the results should not be extrapolated to the general population. Therefore, more research is needed. In the meantime, supplementing pneumonia patients who have low plasma vitamin C levels may be reasonable because of its safety and low cost. None of the five trials reported noteworthy adverse effects of vitamin C.

Its not a bad study to be carrying out by the look of it. It also seems reasonable to make sure your intake provided it is within the recommended levels for anyone anxious about COVID-19.

victorioussponges I think there was so much personal information about him, that he would have been identifible to anyone who knew him by now anyway. Probably easier to just go public.

I'm not that worried.

But I am starting to worry about the possible solutions to the problem - enforced vaccinations, implants, restrictions of movement, enforced unnecessary quarantines, loss of rights and freedoms. Lots of people are saying this virus is man-made and a means to an end. I don't trust governments and I don't know why anyone does in 2020, knowing what we know.

I’m not worried about those solutions - I would do what was nessecary to keep myself alive and assist in the prevention of spreading it further to keep my fellow citizens alive

No I don’t want new vaccinations or forced quarantine, but I would do it in a heartbeat if that’s what we had to do

On the virus being man made - this was suspected from early on. There are 100’s I’d not 1000’s of scientists across the globe testing it and working on its sequencing to come up with answers and potential cures / vaccines

If anyone of any authority on the matter genuinely thought it was man made then China wouldn’t be able to keep that silent.

It’s just conspiracy (and I love a conspiracy theory usually )

Is the coronavirus-induced pneumonia typically viral pneumonia or opportunistic bacterial pneumonia?

@PotholeParadise I’ve seen some reports of anti optics being handed out but that could be just covering that angle.
From the deaths in China who would have access to antibiotics it’s probably viral

In fact that would explain the article I posted up about half an hour ago reporting on them fighting it with intravenous high dose vitamin c as that what you’d do for viruses and not bacteria

Typically viral pneumonia, which is why its harder to treat.

People can help themselves at home should they get viral pneumonia with steam and menthol inhalation regularly

For all those saying "it's only a worry if you are somehow vulneralble" plelase try and think of those of us whose loved ones ARE vulnerable?

Yes it's viral but a risk factor to critical illness/death is from secondary bacterial infection, which is why they may give antibiotics as well just to head that risk off

I'm quite surprised by some people's laid back view in Brighton..that keeping your kids off is somehow a bit of an over reaction.

I'm quite surprised by some people's laid back view in Brighton..that keeping your kids off is somehow a bit of an over reaction

How long would you keep kids away from school? A week? 2 weeks, a month? What happens if after a month it’s still in the news? Not everyone can afford to just stay off work with their kids for weeks on end- some if us have bills to pay

Lots of people are saying this virus is man-made and a means to an end. I don't trust governments and I don't know why anyone does in 2020, knowing what we know.

Who are the "lots of people"? I suspect they're the kind of people who never had a quibble to make with the sci-fi series Fringe, and thought it was all perfectly realistic. Probably also people who were entirely unaware it is always a concern that viruses carried by non-human animals may be picked up by humans and transmittted far and wide. It only seems a certainty that it's man-made if you don't already know that viruses like this are part of the reason why 'red tape' around livestock farming and agriculture are so important.

When you get virologists saying that it's man-made, then I'll listen. Joe Bloggs from the pub who thinks building a bridge across the North Sea is perfectly feasible? Not so much.

It's two days before half term, I'm waiting to see how the next few days pan out. Of course I'm not going to keep them off for weeks for no reason

Of course I'm not going to keep them off for weeks for no reason

This isn’t going away in a week though. This could rumble on for months and months.

It’s now in Port Talbot, South Wales. I live here. The people on the street have had police knocking and telling them to remain indoors for today and there were people in white suits and a load of ambulances and vans

I personally would keep my 5 year old out until it blows over. If that's months, then so be it. I'll home educate. He's immunosuppressed so I'm not taking chances.

You guys on this thread will probably know more than me since I'm not sure of timelines but I'm starting to worry that I maybe had coronavirus already, I know a lot of you are saying it could already be going round. I was Malaysia at the start of Dec and when I came back I was floored with the flu for over a week. Then had bad cough for a couple of weeks no other coldy symptoms. When I first checked it wasn't on the list of countries to avoid so didn't really think anymore about it until I saw there are cases there now and it's on the list. Would this have been too early for me to have caught it over there? I'm worried but there's not much I could do about it now as it was so long ago and obviously wouldn't even be contagious anymore.

Really!?