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AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

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IvyBush123 · 10/02/2020 19:29

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

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Zorona · 11/02/2020 07:57

Yes but I believe swine flu mutated over time and became less severe. I read coronovirus is a more stable virus and doesn’t mutate as much. Hopefully all the dire predictions will turn out to be false but this is a different virus altogether. I don’t think we can compare really.

WaterSheep · 11/02/2020 08:11

According to the BBC, the doctors surgery that was closed yesterday is going to re-open this afternoon.

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 08:13

Yep Watersheep , it's open today!
I live reasonable near it...that was mighty quick deep cleaning! V glad it's not my surgery

cologne4711 · 11/02/2020 08:19

I work in GP surgeries and they are not hygienic like hospital

It's hardly hygienic to make everyone press a touch screen to check in, is it?

500K is a serious number - and I wonder if a disproportionately high number of medical/care workers might be affected as, by definition, they will be coming into contact with a lot of the most serious cases. I hope it's just scaremongering.

I tend to take the view that things won't affect me and just wash my hands a bit more often, but DH has mild health anxiety so this isn't good for him (and he goes to London every day and uses trains and tube). DS doesn't care and is an unhygienic piglet, like a lot of teenage boys (and girls? less so?)

WaterSheep · 11/02/2020 08:22

that was mighty quick deep cleaning!

Indeed! Less than 24 hours. In comparison, the school that has also closed as a precaution is doing so for at least 3 days.

Mummyzzz044 · 11/02/2020 08:23

To be honest when I first heard the news of a virus in China, I didn't think twice about it. Kinda out of sight out of mind.
Rang the dr yesterday for an appointment and they asked me had I been to China in the last 14 days and I realised how seriously they are taking it. Signs up everywhere.

I was shocked I just was naive in thinking it would never come to this in Britain. Especially not in Wales.

I'm terrified if I'm honest.

KenDodd · 11/02/2020 08:37

I'm not a worrier particularly but do have a very trivial thought. We're having a big family holiday at Easter (leaving last week of March) to the USA, if coronavirus takes off I wonder if we'll be able to go?

A bit of good news I read about the virus - it seems children are the least likely to be severely affected.

www.livescience.com/why-kids-missing-coronavirus-cases.html

KenDodd · 11/02/2020 08:44

500,000 deaths, that's the whole of the UK? Just looked up and flu kills 17,000 a year in England. I know the vast majority of people in the UK are in England so maybe if I round that up to 20,000. 500,000 is a very significant jump although that is worse case i believe. I really hope HCP aren't affected badly although can't see how they wouldn't be. If a vaccine is developed I assume HPC take first priority?

HasaDigaEebowai · 11/02/2020 08:49

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/preppers/3819554-prepping-for-a-pandemic-3

This is the most recent thread (3). If you click on the topic it would be best to read back but each thread starts with a summary and the key updating links.

Tentativesteps133 · 11/02/2020 08:52

I'm trying my best not to be too worried about it, although being pregnant is an added concern.

I'm finding the guardian particularly bad for hype though which is a bit annoying - live streams, inflammatory headlines and a whole section of articles.

HasaDigaEebowai · 11/02/2020 08:59

How much info do we have on people having mild cases and recovering?

Based on the official cases its roughly 80 percent mild cases and 20% severe/critical.

Those figures pan out in the outcome cases too (these are cases where someone has either recovered or died) which shows roughly 82 percent recovery and 18% death.

These figures are likely to be inaccurate though since there are likely to be many thousands of cases that are not in the official stats. A death rate of 18% would be massive and its unlikely. Its more likely that there are hundreds of thousand of unreported cases. The WHO estimate (which is very much only an estimate) is 2% death rate which although its much lower than 18%, is still much, much higher than flu.

The Imperial study discussed yesterday concluded that if 200 people were infected they are 95% certain that between 1 and 8 people of those 200 would die. The predictions are that 60-70% of the UK could become infected in a worst case scenario which would equate to circa 450,000 deaths.

So that's what we know. Its based on predictions and so nobody knows for sure.

The BBC pandemic experiment is being shown again this evening. I watch it and joined in when it was first broadcast. I'd recommend it to everyone. Its really interesting in showing how the viruses spread (they basically take a real village (fake virus obviously) and map people and then show who is affected due to contact with others.

NatyoCheese · 11/02/2020 09:21

I’m worried - has anyone seen this?

www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/275785

China has not always been the most transparent. I do fear this is worse than we are being led to believe.

Reginabambina · 11/02/2020 09:25

@BambooBoobam I had that in December, it lasted forever and was just horrible. It’s a different virus though, the Wuhan Coronavirus (does it have a name yet?) doesn’t have a productive cough.

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 09:27

I'm a little concerned about true figures in China with regards to the new way of diagnosing cases. No wonder the numbers of new cases are dropping if they're not including people who are asymptomatic, yet test positive...if I've understood correctly???!

PotholeParadise · 11/02/2020 09:29

Just so you know, all the French tests so far (61 of them) for Coronavirus in Les Contamines-Montjoie have come back negative, including the siblings of the infected nine-year-old at the chalet.

WaterSheep · 11/02/2020 09:40

A second GP surgery has now been closed in Brighton.

Zorona · 11/02/2020 09:45

Can anyone remember if gp practices were ever closed during swine flu?

Loveislandlydia · 11/02/2020 09:48

I wasn’t concerned but having read the news this morning, I am becoming increasingly concerned. I’m not ‘prepping’ or panicking but I’m definitely worried for all those who have ongoing conditions who may become exposed to the virus

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 11/02/2020 09:50

Had to ring the gp this morning on an unrelated topic and there's a prerecorded message from their staff

"If you believe you are showing symptoms of the wutang coronavirus please press zero now"

Grin
kirinm · 11/02/2020 09:50

I actually feel less worried today. Stats in China appear to be slowing down and except the super spreader, not many people in the UK have been infected. I do feel sorry for those stuck on the cruise ship.

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 09:58

Bernadette - 😂😂

"Check out my gravel pit"....

Aureum · 11/02/2020 10:00

NatyoCheese I completely agree that China is unlikely to be telling the truth. They lie about flu statistics every year. The reported figures don’t justify the scale of the response.

SympatheticSwan · 11/02/2020 10:07

China needs people to continue working. I would not trust anything that comes from their official propaganda. They have already accused Hong Kong of orchestrating worldwide hysteria. Hmm

lemonjumper · 11/02/2020 10:09

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz Grin Grin Grin

WaterSheep · 11/02/2020 10:17

Apparently the "Super Spreader" is now fully recovered from the coronavirus.