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AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

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IvyBush123 · 10/02/2020 19:29

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/02/2020 15:31

So the prisoners are also contacts of the super spreader man! wow he has a full and active social life!

yolofish · 11/02/2020 15:39

Dobby I wondered about that too... seems unlikely?

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/02/2020 15:42

I don’t know. Does seem unlikely, but he seems to have got about a bit while unwell. Obviously he had a mild case as he was able to travel etc while ill. Does point towards a milder illness in some cases.

NemophilistRebel · 11/02/2020 15:49

Why prisoners? Who have they been I contact with?!

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2020 16:02

This is the number of report death from the start if Feb and the percentage increase from the day before.

Sat 1st - 259
Sun 2nd - 304 (+17.4%)
Mon 3rd - 362 (+19.1%)
Tues 4th - 426 (+17.7%)
Wed 5th - 493 (15.7%)
Thur 6th - 566 (14.8%)
Fri 7th - 635 (12.2%)
Sat 8th - 724 (14.0%)
Sun 9th - 813 (12.3%)
Mon 10th - 904 (11.2%)
Tues 11th - 1013 (12.0%)

It LOOKS like the rate is slowing (I heavily cavet this by saying we don't know how much we can trust the Chinese figures).

It's certainly not under control but it could indicate the Chinese authorities are handling the situation a little better (the lower rate could simply be due to influx of new medics improving rates of survival slightly, whilst the base death rate stays the same). It could equally mean the Chinese authorities are fudging the figures even more than they were at the start of the month.

I think we have to take the view that the death rate has perhaps now peaked and is declining.

It'll be interesting to see the next few days of data. A 12% increase on yesterday should put the predicted number of deaths announced later (usually around 10pm) at approximately 1135.

There has been a suggestion that the number of reported cases has gone down already, so you'd expect the number of deaths to follow.

Obviously we don't know how truthful the Chinese authorities are being here. They certainly want to look as if things are getting under control if nothing else.

If it generally takes two to three weeks to die then if quarantine was being effective you'd start to see a drop of in numbers between the 6th and 13th Feb and then it to decline in daily increases from then outward. Which appears to be the case.

I think it's far too early to say this is definitely happening, but it certainly could be starting to.

Let's hope.

kirinm · 11/02/2020 16:02

How on earth have prisoners got it? But if they have, that'll be pretty quick to spread.

I feel sorry for the super spreader. If someone dies or gets really sick he's going to feel bloody awful even though it isn't his fault.

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2020 16:04

New official name

World Health Organisation (WHO) announced the new coronavirus will be called COVID-19.

notanothergiftcard · 11/02/2020 16:08

I don’t have a will. I am 31. Feels so morbid... and I will not make one now because I am not planing to die.

You are stupid then. Everyone with children ought to have a will. I'm not even 30 yet and I have one. No one "plans" to die. A car crash could take you out tomorrow. It's just commons ense.

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 16:15

Re the prisoners- I read the article that of warren linked to to mean the new positive patients (Brighton) were linked to Steve, not the prisoners

ConstancetheGardener · 11/02/2020 16:17

Has this taken over from Brexit as the Mumsnetter end of the world doomsday obsession of the moment ? Get a grip people , of course it is serious , of course every care must be taken but check out flu deaths per year (and that's with vaccines available) and keep things in perspective .Oh and I speak as someone with asthma who gets regular chest infections and occasional pneumonia so I am probably in an at risk group .

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2020 16:22

Nearly a third of the patients in the city of Tianjin were tied to a single mall. Officials estimated that nearly 12,000 people had been there in late January.

Nearly a third of the confirmed coronavirus cases in Tianjin, a city of more than 15 million about 70 miles southeast of Beijing, have been linked to one department store, adding to fears about rapid transmission in tightly clustered communities.

Of 102 confirmed cases in the city, at least 33 patients worked or shopped at a department store in the Baodi district, or had close contact with employees or customers, according to the Tianjin health authorities. Many of them had no history of travel to Wuhan, the city where the outbreak emerged.

Officials estimated that 11,700 customers had visited the shopping complex during a period in late January. The authorities said that those customers would be quarantined, and that the store itself, which they did not identify, had been sealed and disinfected.

It was not immediately clear how the authorities had tracked the shoppers, but health officials in the city have put out alerts on social media and on state news outlets urging residents to contact the government if they visited the store recently. News reports also said residents had been asked at various checkpoints in the city if they had been there.

In addition, emergency measures were imposed over sections of Baodi — home to nearly one million people — with all but two entrances and exits for certain residential areas sealed off and security personnel on round-the-clock patrols. Some residents were allowed to leave their homes only once every two days.

Via NYT
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html#click=t.co/pKzwjmU82F" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html#click=t.co/pKzwjmU82F

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 16:43

Shit my sons school has just emailed to say somebody has been asked to self isolate...not the news I wanted to hear! It's not one of the previous ones reported. I'm also due to work there three afternoons this week 😷

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/02/2020 16:59

Ok, I re read and it’s not clear, but does read like the super speader man isn’t responsible. But the prisoners are being tested, so not found positive yet.

mamapants · 11/02/2020 17:19

@potatochipsandcheese shocked you don't seem to understand why your comment was wrong. Don't want to derail but feel it's important not to ignore these things.

PointlessUsername · 11/02/2020 17:31

@Notstrongandstable will the school be closed? Or still open as the person is in self isolation now.

littlemissmuffins · 11/02/2020 17:39

Can anyone shed any light on the following:

"Each day, PHE publishes the latest statistics related to coronavirus in the UK at 2pm, but the spokesman said it is impossible to keep account of British patients being tested and confirmed entirely"

I know that PHE is public health England, it reads as rather worrying what this spokesperson is saying. Is he saying that they won't be recording all cases tested and confirmed?? That would be very worrying lack of information.

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 17:46

Pointlessusername - the school is still open. You can send them in or keep at home, it will go down as an authorised absence. My gut instinct is to keep him off but them if I'm working there myself is there any point? It's casual work, not contracted

Notstrongandstable · 11/02/2020 17:48

I think if there was a confirmed case they would obviously close the school

NemophilistRebel · 11/02/2020 18:11

Anyone know the link to the prisoners at hemp Bullingdon? It’s literally just a few miles from my parents and they’ve been ill with pneumonia the last few weeks Shock

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/02/2020 18:17

There is a massive amount of people who have been tested in the UK. Maybe over 3,000? Only 8 positive.

lemonjumper · 11/02/2020 18:17

According to the Daily Mail (so take with the appropriate pinch of salt), one prisoner fell ill after transferring from Thailand.

lemonjumper · 11/02/2020 18:20

Where are you getting over 3,000 from @DobbyTheHouseElk? The GOV.uk page says "As of 11 February, a total of 1,358 people have been tested, of which 1,350 were confirmed negative and 8 positive."

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/02/2020 18:24

I’m funny with numbers sorry. I’m not good at remembering them. There was a 3 in there.

NaturalBornWoman · 11/02/2020 18:26

Just listening to the radio on the way home from work and heard again the advice for people traveling to the UK from a list of countries to self isolate for 14 days if they have symptoms. In view of Steve from Brighton infecting so many people whilst apparently asymptotic, this seems inappropriate now and time that people coming into the country from those places to quarantine themselves irrespective of symptoms. Otherwise we will have an outbreak for which contact tracing will be impossible.

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