AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

I was having a look at the news stories out yesterday about reemergence of mumps (because I had to be tested for it for health related job and came up no immunity) which linked into stories about illnesses that damage the testis and a new paper (who knows if it might be fake news or wrong) came up about how Covid may cause testicular lesions - if this is the case then I undertand more the panic about it...www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022418v1.full.pdf

cbtvn.com/coronavirus-cases-guyana/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
BREAKING NEWS: Guyana confirms seven coronavirus cases in Georgetown

Six Guyanese and one Chinese have tested positive for coronavirus in Georgetown, authorities have said in a statement.

According to the statement, Six people became ill after coming into contact with a Chinese colleague who was visiting from Shanghai and had recently been in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak.

Authorities say the Chinese is still not showing symptoms of the virus despite testing positive and that is why border control did not notice.

which linked into stories about illnesses that damage the testis and a new paper (who knows if it might be fake news or wrong) came up about how Covid may cause testicular lesions - if this is the case then I undertand more the panic about it..

I was reading today about how ACE-2 receptors were found in the testes. Not seen anything about it doing anything to the testes.

I wonder if that could have long term implications for fertility?

Those people have been trapped on a ship at sea for a fortnight and no one showed symptoms. So that puts paid to the 14 days incubation and quarantine period then.

Looks like they were researching that RedToothBrush, with regards to SARS, maybe no further outbreaks meant though that the research fell by the wayside? academic.oup.com/biolreprod/article/74/2/410/2667029 "Orchitis: A Complication of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)"

What got me today was after SARS they discovered two new coronaviruses in humans. Apparently they are wide spread and everywhere and they think have been around for sometime before they were actually discovered.

What struck me was that NL63 ALSO apparently enters the through ACE-2 receptors.

Research into SARS related stuff went away after a few years when people started to forget. Then MERS appeared. Again another human coronavirus which has a very high CFR.

The Bill and Melinda Gates institute appeared to buck the overall trend and picked up the significance of this a couple of years ago (Gates has been very much into malaria research for a number of years) and when COVID-19 became known they were slammed as if it were some big conspiracy.

Yet when you look at it, the risk from a human coronavirus has very much been present for a number of years and that ACE-2 receptors entry point has been known as a point of concern.

Yet the funding and research still dried up.

It's mind boogling given we knew the CFR with SARS was high and MERS was even higher.

It’s quite shocking how absolutely similar this is to the Event 201 pandemic scenario from 2019

@IvyBush123 Haven't read the full thread, because CBA, but the coronvirus is NOT new.

And no I am not worried.

It’s quite shocking how absolutely similar this is to the Event 201 pandemic scenario from 2019

Not really. Disaster movies are based off civil contingency modelling. People study it.

@Shinycat erm..Novel means new. It's a new strain of coronavirus that they haven't seen before.

Shinycat while Coronaviruses have been around for quite a while, this particular strain is a new strain to infect humans. It’s literally referred to as a “novel Coronavirus” for that reason.

And Coronaviruses range from mild types (like the common cold, although not all colds are coronaviruses - they’re often rhinoviruses) to more severe and potentially deadly strains like SARS and MERS.

It feels like reading between the lines there is a lot of contingency planning going on.

I have read reports about US military being told to plan for pandemic outbreak etc ( read in Military Times )

It worries me.

The further outbreaks in Japan & Singapore are worrying too

I just feel like everything is being downplayed and kept quiet with the FLU rhetoric repeated as a calming method.

I know rationally we are in the UK and there are mimimal cases ATM but the high R0 rate and long periods of possible asymptomatic transmission etc keeps playing on my mind.

I need to run a hot bath and put my phone down and zone out with a book for the night I think

I've just watched a video of the prime minister of Cambodia greeting and shaking the hands of passengers in the middle of a crowd as they disembarked the Westerdam yesterday...

See Jordan @JordanJones33

Oh dear...

Yes I saw the Cambodia PM story too

One of the passengers that disembarked has now tested positive in Kuala Lumpar

The PM must be regretting the handshake now

I just feel like everything is being downplayed and kept quiet with the FLU rhetoric repeated as a calming method.

Totally agree. I mentioned on another thread that what Chinese citizen journalists who then disappear are revealing goes mainstream a while later.

I have read reports about US military being told to plan for pandemic outbreak etc ( read in Military Times )

To be honest it might be more concerning if they weren’t planning for it.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

I was reading today about how ACE-2 receptors were found in the testes. Not seen anything about it doing anything to the testes.

I wonder if that could have long term implications for fertility?

How very "Handmaid's Tale Prequel"...

Yes

Hope for the best , prepare for the worst is sensible

Yes gorky I feel like there is media manipulation

I wish there wasn’t and I wish this was all just overblown but someone mentioned before - watch what they do , not what they say and it’s really stuck with me.

Has the NHS ever put metal containers outside of a & e depts for example to separate incoming patients

I’ve read about ‘ normalcy bias ‘ and I think that’s what is happening just now and I feel like this is the calm before a storm

Any reassurance otherwise gladly received ...

As I’ve said before I’m usually v calm and rational just think I’ve been reading too much ...

@Jenasaurus when I worked in the NHS, a colleague called in to say she had repeated diarrhoea. Direct patient role. She was told she would be disciplined if she didn't come into work. She was dead a week later.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-couples-agonising-two-day-17744108.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Manchester couple's agonising two-day wait to find out if they had coronavirus - and how they were given 'no advice' on how to live in 'self-isolation'

“We have a deep seated sense of social responsibly - so would not continence venturing out and running the risk of contaminating others,” one said.

"The care we received at the hospital was superb, professional and compassionate, but I thought there would be some kind of emergency plan in place.

“It all feels a bit ad-hoc.

Any news on the York two yet?

Ugh I was feeling calmer about it all but it’s still at the back of my mind. I am about to book a holiday to Disney Orlando for the summer and I am now in two minds - i am sure it will be fine but if it hasn’t died down Disney is probably the worst place you could go for catching bugs. Life is short and I think I should just do it and make the most of it, it’s normally the things you don’t expect to kill you that kill you. It’s definitely a frightening and uncertain time though.

It's crazy how on all of these threads, people pop up to say it's just the flu and media scaremongering. Then everyone explains why it isn't the flu, and 5 pages later...

"But it's just flu!"

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/eight-uk-patients-coronavirus-discharged-a4363006.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1581783911
Eight of UK's nine coronavirus patients discharged from hospital

NINTH is London Uber woman I think.