AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

Trouble is I don’t want my last few days or weeks wasted. I want to enjoy what time I have left. Same goes for my children

Ffs. Get a grip. You’re not dying yet. Good grief.

I think there might be a few cases everywhere and people might think t is the flue but I am sure if there many cases everywhere and it REALLY is as deadly as many think we would notice. I do not think a high number of people dying from pneumonia would go unnoticed in a first world nation for a long time.

I have read such an interesting article today... basically about how important it is to clean/disinfect your cell phone regularity. For many people it is the dirtiest object they own (has more germs than the lavatory). I wanted to share it but cannot find it anymore. It was however a reputable source.

@IvyBush123 it's just a new flu really. But what confuses me so much is WHY WHY WHY China are reacting the way they are if it is just a new flu!!!

Maybe I should pull them out and we could go on holiday somewhere remote for months to tough it out but really?

Did you do the same for SARS & bird flu?

Ivy I saw it too.

This one

t.co/EAMjz2kmtG?amp=1
Coronavirus: cleaning your phone more effective than wearing a face mask. Here’s how to do it
Singapore’s health ministry said there is no evidence the coronavirus is airborne, and that face masks are not the most effective protection
Smartphones are among the dirtiest items people own, and are often held up to users’ eyes, noses and lips – key points for coronavirus infection

Reducing traveling and socialising isn't just about protecting yourself. It will slow down the pace of spread of the virus.

At the pace it is infecting in hubei the health system simply can't cope and nor could the NHS. If the infection rates is slowed down a death rate of 'only' 1% is achievable. If it spreads quickly the NHS will fail and there will be many many avoidable deaths. This is why we all need to be sensible and not take fatalistic or "i'm alright Jack" attitudes.

WHO has said that coronavirus has been the most severe for men over 40, with cases worsening the older the patient.

Which ties in with previous information

Thank you @RedToothBrush. That is the article I was talking about.

@Really123456 I have been asking myself the same question. Several of the Bavarian patients have been discharged from hospital today. They are free of the virus now and haven’t even been really sick.

Three: 1) It is not just a flue
2) There is something else China wants to hide. I am not sure what it could be

More on those cases in Japan

mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200213/p2g/00m/0na/092000c

The Japanese woman from Kanagawa Prefecture, just southwest of the capital, who had not traveled overseas recently, was found to be infected with the virus after she died, health minister Katsunobu Kato said at a press conference.

The woman had been diagnosed with pneumonia and hospitalized since Feb. 1, the health ministry said, adding her breathing deteriorated on Feb. 6.

She was the mother-in-law of a Tokyo taxi driver whose infection with the virus was confirmed Thursday, according to a government official.

The driver in his 70s was quoted as saying by a Tokyo metropolitan government official that he had not transported foreign visitors in the two weeks before he first showed symptoms on Jan. 29 and health authorities are seeking to determine how he got the virus.

And

In Wakayama Prefecture, a surgeon in his 50s became the first doctor in Japan to be infected with the virus, the local government said. It is not known whether he had close contact with visitors from China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

Wakayama is not a central location nor a tourist area which could be a worry.

I am being serious. It’s not something my body would likely get over with auto immune diseases and asthma. I keep getting told pneumonia would kill me. So I’m trying to accept the worst case. If I can tell myself I can cope with and hope for a better outcome that’s good.
Article shows the level of panic in some people and how they’ve changed their lives

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/12/ive-stopped-going-to-the-gym-britons-react-to-coronavirus-threat

How does one self isolate?

How would dh bring me food or I to him and clean plates etc?

Does anyone think places like Disney would be awful...

Follow nhs advice.
Disney - truly terrible idea
In all circs, not just this
Save your money

NC as outing. I'm a healthcare professional that works at Lewisham hospital and I'm furious at the way the woman got an uber to A&E when she phoned 111 first and was told to either wait for specialist transport or take her own vehicle. People's selfishness/stupidity could be deadly. Also the 'isolation facilities' at Lewisham A&E aren't what they're cracked up to be.

We also received a talk about Corona virus which was supposed to be reassuring but did the opposite if I'm honest. There were comparison photos of a chest xray as the disease progressed and it was alarming. I'm not normally an anxious person but I am starting to worry

In other news Antarctica temperature reached a record high of over 20degrees today ! I’d be more concerned about that in the long run tbh !

@Floraflower3 - If you don't mind sharing, would you be able to say a little more about what the chest Xrays looked like as it progressed?

I'm not normally an anxious person but I am starting to worry

So, as someone whose had a Corona virus talk and seen X Rays.. do you believe it's just as bad as 'flu'? Which everyone keeps spouting.

It's load of bollocks. Be worried about the bees dying, no vaccine for that apocalypse.

Don't doubt you but why would you be shown chest xrays... Where from?

Unfortunately people are stupid. I don't know see now we could ever win with this thing.

I know loads of people at dc school and college going to Disney over half term.

How are they treating people with it, if its a virus?

www.businessinsider.com/doctors-release-chest-x-ray-wuhan-coronavirus-patient-2020-1

For anyone interested in CT scans, a quick google found some images that have been released. There's also some on Reddit, but thought this might be a more credible source.

I know loads of people at dc school and college going to Disney over half term

Have I missed something, is there a case that's been at Disney?

No cases at Disney. It was a little tangent, because in the midst of all the discussion, one might wonder whether this is THE time to go to Disney to avoid the crowds. If everyone else is staying at home, this might be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to have the VIP Fastpass experience without paying the fees for it!

NC as outing. I'm a healthcare professional that works at Lewisham hospital and I'm furious at the way the woman got an uber to A&E when she phoned 111 first and was told to either wait for specialist transport or take her own vehicle.

I agree - if this is what happened then it was an incredibly selfish thing to do.