AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/coronavirus-japan-confirms-first-death-but-unclear-if-virus-is-direct-cause-of-death?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=sttw&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1581598879
Coronavirus: Japan confirms first death, but unclear if virus is direct cause of death

A woman in her 80s has become the first person with coronavirus to die in Japan, the country’s health minister said on Thursday (Feb 13), but cautioned it was not clear if the virus caused her death.

“The relationship between the coronavirus and the death of the person is still unclear,” Katsunobu Kato said at a late-night briefing.

“This is the first death of a person who tested positive.”

The minister said the woman, living in Kanagawa prefecture, developed symptoms on Jan 22 and was hospitalised on Feb 1.

“She was suspected of being infected with the coronavirus so... testing was conducted. Her positive test result was confirmed after her death,” he said.

It sounds as if she wasn't initially suspected of coronavirus because of last of contact trace / travel history but has subsequently been tested and this has come back positive but only after her death.

I could be wrong but that's troubling in its own right.

Time line - 22nd Jan is day before Wuhan shut down. So she had caught the virus prior to then when the number of cases was supposedly very small.

At what point did they decide she was coronavirus? And why did it take so long to identify her positively for disease?

Hard to think anything but virus is now uncontrolled in Tokyo area. It's densely populated and has an aged population.

Assurances earlier today that the Olympics will go ahead as planned are looking rather desperate rather than confident.

Oh she was in Lewisham which is my borough. It'll hit London properly now surely?

Not necessarily - 4 cases in Brighton and that hasn't become over run with it.

No reason to think it'll happen in London. They'll find out who she's had contact with and test them/go from there

Kinrinm at least she didn’t use the tube or buses.

Something strange that seems to mean Chinese nationals are affected worse than other nationalities so who knows if she’s spread it yet?

I guess you're right, I just feel the tube and London's transport system and the sheer number of people using it, means it can easily be transmitted although obviously depends on where this woman had been. And the Uber driver.

I wonder if she's connected to the north London GP surgery closing because Lewisham is the opposite side of London to that.

I’m taking it as positive that the Brighton man flew back on the 28th Jan and did all his yoga and socialising and we are not seeing any more cases in Brighton (or from the plane). We must be coming to the end of the incubation period for him spreading it now. I think it’s reassuring that he can sit on a plane and not pass it on. (Unless new cases come out in next couple of days).

Someone on Sky News - and I'm sorry, cant remember who as was only listening with half an ear - was talking about the tube being a perfect vector for disease. Which makes sense to me at any time of year, not just in terms of Covid19. But not a pretty thought.

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-islington-gp-surgery-closed-a4361381.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1581600439
Islington GP surgery closed due to coronavirus

According to that link she arrived on a flight from China on Saturday.

Just sop all flights to and from China now FFS!! In face stop them from everywhere. Give us a chance at least!

*stop
*fact

Anxiety is giving me fat fingers!

Just sop all flights to and from China now FFS!! In face stop them from everywhere. Give us a chance at least!

Good plan.

Just one question.

How do all the British currently on school half term holiday get back home?

How do all the British currently on school half term holiday get back home?

Cruise ships? 🤭

This news has definitely taken any shine off cruising!

I read that the poor woman who died in Japan was the mother-in-law of the bus driver who was (I think) one of the first people to be diagnosed with Coronavirus in Japan.

Can't find anything concrete to verify that yet (it was on Reddit) but would explain how she came to get the virus.

What’s the source for the Taunton gp centre? My parents live near there.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-51486131?__twitter_impression=true
Coronavirus: More may need to self-isolate to stop spread - NHS boss

It is understood that she arrived in an Uber, but the driver was traced and told there is no risk because the journey took less than 15 minutes.

Uber said it had temporarily suspended the driver's account "out of an abundance of caution

Nice of Uber to support this guy financially... Hurrah for zero hours contacts.

From same article
The new case - announced on Wednesday evening - is the first to be identified in London after she contracted the virus in China.

She "self-presented" at the A&E department of University Hospital Lewisham on Sunday 9 February, hospital chief executive Ben Travis said

And

On Wednesday, the test came back positive and she was taken for treatment at a specialist unit at Guys and St Thomas' hospital that evening

So tested Sunday or Monday. Results at least 48hrs later on Wednesday. That's how far behind Phe are with contact tracing.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-face-mask-shortage-threatens-uk-dentists-11933071
Dentists are facing "imminent disruption" due to a shortage of face masks amid increased demand.

Because we don't have a national shortage of dentist time as it is.

Taunton
www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/18232594.french-weir-health-centre-closed-infection-control-reasons/
French Weir Health Centre Taunton reopens after coronavirus fears

Ok, thanks. That’s concerning.

Apparently it’s a false alarm. Someone thought they had the symptoms, so they had to follow the procedures and close and deep clean. Even though it was unlikely the patient had been anywhere to catch the virus.

Apparently another case in London

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7999481/Londons-second-coronavirus-patient-Paramedics-hazmat-suits-march-man-Paddington-flat.html

Hmmm. Not sure it could be a confirmed case and it's written on the basis of some guy who apparently spoke to the paramedic. Obviously they are concerned but I think I'll wait to see how it's reported elsewhere.

These closures of surgeries mistakenly or not are evidence, I think, that people are starting to panic.

Agreed. People have started taking children out of school and staying indoors. One article said someone was avoiding the gym and another couple have been holed up at home and used tissues on own door handle when returning.
Trouble is I don’t want my last few days or weeks wasted. I want to enjoy what time I have left. Same goes for my children. They are still going to school to see friends and enjoy what they can. Maybe I should pull them out and we could go on holiday somewhere remote for months to tough it out but really?
I think if we can accept it’s coming and 60-80% of us will get it. We have to try and live sensible with hand washing etc.

YoursTunbridgeWells what the actual fuck? are you kidding?

DH is on chemo and thus immunosuppressed. DD2 is on her placement year from uni, commuting by train and tube from home. She is adamant that if it's confirmed in London she will work from home (if that's allowed). If not, she will stay home. And I will support her in that, I don't care if its panicky, we haven't gone through 18 months of chemo/radio, radical surgery, more chemo for DH to get bloody Covid19 off a commuter!

I think it's spread everywhere already, it may have not taken off but it's inhabited most places I'm sure. The Chinese doctor discovered it in late Dec, so it was spreading a month before probably... We have a high Chinese student population like other countries, potentially some probably went back to China during the Christmas break and came back before it all hit the media.