AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

However i'm unsure on the new way of reporting deaths. Could you explain the difference to how the were recorded prior to yesterday, compared to what now counts as a death from COVID19?

My understanding is that they are now classifying people with symptoms but not a positive test result as a clinically confirmed case. So previously if someone had symptoms and no positive test result and they died they wouldn't be counted in the stats and now they would.

Presumably because people who died without a positive test are now being recorded as coronavirus deaths based on the symptoms they had before they died.

There had been talk already of deaths being mis-recorded as e.g. pneumonia rather than coronavirus, so this helps to fix that.

meredithgrey1 Thank you, that's a simple and clear explanation, and it makes a lot of sense. Do we know if the additional 135 cases which wouldn't have counted before yesterday are the patients who died yesterday, or a combination of those who have died up to this point without testing positive?

@WaterSheep BBC says "Of the 242 new deaths in Wuhan, 135 are such "clinically diagnosed" cases" and calls it the "deadliest day of the outbreak" which to me suggests they are people who died on Wednesday and not reclassifying previous deaths. I also would think the number would be higher if they went back and retrospectively reclassified deaths.

@WaterSheep but obviously the number of new cases will include some people who may have had symptoms for ages and are only just now being recorded as coronavirus, and not just people who have just developed the illness. So the cases may not be as "new" as on other days iyswim

@TwoleftUggs I would discreetly let the school office know what the pupils are saying. They will have lots of experience of dealing with confidential medical information and teenage hearsay, and can get proper advice from 111/Public Health England on whether or not the situation is a risk that needs action.

The vast majority of UK tests are coming back negative, but it's still important to test as many people falling into risk categories as possible so that containment can be prompt when it's needed.

I think the change in diagnostic criteria accounts for the increase.

Any suspected cases with pneumonia-related computerized tomography (CT) scan results are counted as clinically diagnosed cases, according to the latest version of the diagnosis and treatment scheme released by the National Health Commission.

But it has only been applied to one province. Last I read the rest of China didn't report at all yesterday. Don't know if that is still the case.

Just see on another forum a YouTube video : 'video from china's isolation hospital'.
I can't post a link.
It makes distressing viewing.

GP surgery in Taunton closed.

Doctor in Japan diagnosed with COVID-19

Port Talbot: www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/paramedics-turned-up-street-face-17734933?fbclid=IwAR2dLDPG8G_BNJ-hAZ-VLawiXMvLDkVqYnfLPfcqptscQygM9stbZqI0Roo

There was an ambulance, but it may have been a false alarm.

8 new cases in Singapore (their biggest daily increase) most connected with a church.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7999313/amp/NHS-hospitals-coronavirus-isolation-pods-pictured-NINTH-case-diagnosed-UK.html?__twitter_impression=true
The coronavirus 'isolation pods' in Britain's hospitals: NHS sets up windowless shipping containers and rusty portacabins as a NINTH case is diagnosed in the UK

This is... 'reassuring'?!

Lovely. I had naively imagined the isolation pods to be futuristic smooth, curvy, super-clean installations. But rusty boxes are much more British

I had naively imagined the isolation pods to be futuristic smooth, curvy, super-clean installations

Yes, I was thinking more star trek medical bay and less outdoor classroom circa 1980.

It looks very hi-tech, doesn't it? Not dissimilar to that metal box we saw a Chinese person being bundled off to quarantine in, in that video last week that so many of us were shocked by. So much for "first world medicine".

Has there been a death in Japan?

Yes, looks like it. Worldometers has updated to say one death in Japan.

Has there been a death in Japan?

I think it's an 80 year old woman.

Yes, I was thinking more star trek medical bay and less outdoor classroom circa 1980.

Hahaha that brings back memories of GCSE English lit lessons...

GP surgery in Taunton has reopened after a deep clean.

There were rumours in Manchester of a suspected case the other day. I believe this story relates to it.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/woman-rushed-hospital-after-police-17738645.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

NOT coronavirus

Yes a death in Japan. On the basis of their current numbers they are due 5-6 if the 2% death rate is correct.

If the 18% rate is correct then..

More on that Japanese death. I'm just seeing tweets saying it's a new case not one previously reported. She had never left Japan and its not known where she caught the virus

This one is looking troubling.

Will try and verify the story properly

Bno newsroom @bnonews
NEW: Japan reports another case of coronavirus in a man in his 20s; it's unknown how he was infected

Japan has reported 4 new cases of coronavirus in the past few hours. In all 4 cases it's not clear how they were infected.

Woman is from near Tokyo. Tested positive for virus after death.

Massive issue here...

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN20708N?__twitter_impression=true
Japan coronavirus ship ordeal to end earlier, as Tokyo taxi driver tests positive

A taxi driver in Tokyo has tested positive for the coronavirus, NHK public TV reported, marking a further spread of the disease in Japan even as authorities said some passengers aboard a ship quarantined off its coast would finally be allowed to disembark.

The broadcaster, quoting sources, said the health ministry was trying to trace the route of the contagion, adding that the driver said he had carried passengers who appeared to be Chinese.

No further details were immediately available, including word on the condition of the man, who NHK said was in his 70s. The case is likely to raise further concerns about the spread of the flu-like virus given how many people a city taxi driver has likely been in contact with.

So the woman in London got a Uber to hospital...