AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

[IvyBush123]

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

Have seen reports that California in USA have asked 1000 people to self isolate ( NBC)

Also that there are various “ quarantine “ units based next to all major USA airports ... on army bases

As soon as WHO visiting group have been in China - the official WHO rhetoric has changed to being more serious.

In answer to the threads title - yes I am getting more worried

Helpful info on here. thanks everyone.

The news is reporting that in some cases coronavirus may trigger a “cytokine storm” (an excessive immune reaction which triggers viral sepsis) and this is worse in those who have strong immune systems (ie the young and healthy).

This makes sense why so few children have been severely impacted by coronavirus, because their immune system is not fully developed. I have seen a few posts remarking about this

twitter reporting that 2 prisoners at Bullingdon tested positive
twitter.com/search?q=bullingdon+prison&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch

but I'm doubtful as all other reports continue to say "being tested "

The news is reporting that in some cases coronavirus may trigger a “cytokine storm” (an excessive immune reaction which triggers viral sepsis) and this is worse in those who have strong immune systems (ie the young and healthy). This is how the Spanish Flu killed so many people. Coronavirus can also result in acute respiratory distress syndrome which can lead to long term lung damage and functional disability.

Um, source?

That was wrongly reported this morning, soon after they changed the headline. I think it is taking a few days for the results to come through at the moment due to the sheer number being tested.

Am I right in thinking that every time someone on the Diamond Princess gets diagnosed with the Coronavirus, the clock restarts on the quarantine period? Those passengers could be on there for months and months!

Am I right in thinking that every time someone on the Diamond Princess gets diagnosed with the Coronavirus, the clock restarts on the quarantine period? Those passengers could be on there for months and months!

I would guess that depends on how the passengers are separated? If they're able to block areas off might they be able to let certain people off if they know they haven't been in contact with people who've tested positive more recently? I guess that kind of separation may not be possible though?

Am I right in thinking that every time someone on the Diamond Princess gets diagnosed with the Coronavirus, the clock restarts on the quarantine period? Those passengers could be on there for months and months!

From what I've read, the quarantine ends on 19th February UNLESS you have had direct contact with someone who has been diagnosed with coronavirus, in which case your 14 day quarantine resets and begins from your last contact with that person.

Have also read that everyone will be tested before being allowed to leave on 19th though.

With the worry of it being airborne now I'd query how isolated they are from eacif they share air con...

I would guess that depends on how the passengers are separated?*

They are all in their own rooms, so the passengers aren't mixing, unless it's with their own family they are with.

*each other if

With the worry of it being airborne now I'd query how isolated they are from eacif they share air con...

That might be something that becomes clear though? I mean, if near the end of the quarantine someone tests positive who realistically they don't think should have been anywhere near anyone else who has tested positive maybe they'll get a better idea how it's spread as they'll have to look into how the person caught it?

With the worry of it being airborne now I'd query how isolated they are from eacif they share air con...

Not only that, but I would think there is probably a risk with food being prepared too, if one of the crew members has it but is currently symptomless.

Scratch that, apparently they have fresh air it isn't recirculating so that's good.

The prisoners have had the all clear according to the Guardian

I'm sure I'd read confirmation that the cruise ship quarantine was restarting every time there was a case. Will see if I can find it.

I think the concerning aspect is the amount of positives from the rest sample of under 300 passengers tested.

( not of the total 3k people onboard )

It’s a v high percent of the test sample ...

More reflective of what numbers would be in the actual populations on land ?

*test sample not rest sample

I'm sure I'd read confirmation that the cruise ship quarantine was restarting every time there was a case. Will see if I can find it.

"13:06 Update that many of you have been asking about: the world health organization has clarified that the end date of quarantine is 2/19. For those closely in contact with newly infected people (for example, roommates of a newly infected person), the quarantine is extended to 14 days from the date of last contact with the infected individuals."

from www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/ezrn2x/im_a_us_citizen_aboard_the_diamond_princess/ (written by a passenger on the cruise ship).

Just read that about the prisoners testing negative. Thank god for that!

Well, the test sample on the cruise ship wasn't random - it was initially people with symptoms and then close contacts of people who had already been diagnosed. So you'd expect it to be quite high as people are highly likely to pass a virus on to someone they are sharing a cabin with.

I'm as reasonably concerned as anyone, as a hypochondriac of many years, but it amazes me how many people on this thread seem to just revel in the panicking rather than reading the most reliable reports.

Look at the WHO daily status reports for a breakdown of who has caught the virus locally and who in China. Apart from in Singapore and on the cruise ship, there are currently very limited onward transmission chains outside China.

The Brighton guy caught it from someone from China at the conference in Singapore, not randomly in the street. The conference was before the Wuhan/Hubei travel ban was instituted. Several other people took infections back to their countries including a Malaysian and a South Korean. All this information is readily available.

And is not surprising the prisoners didn't have it - as of yesterday there were only 33 cases in Thailand of which only 4 people had definitely caught it when in Thailand, with 4 more of uncertain origin, 23 from China and 3 from other countries.

Confirmed case in London.

metro.co.uk/2020/02/12/coronavirus-reaches-london-chinese-national-becomes-first-diagnosed-capital-12229567/

Here's the link, not much details though so far.