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AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued

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IvyBush123 · 10/02/2020 19:29

Here is the old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3813759-AIBU-to-ask-you-if-you-are-worried-about-the-new-Coronavirus?pg=40

Here is a twitter video from Wuhan I want to share because it so heartbreaking. People happily celebrating shortly before it became known that there was a virus outbreak. There already were some rumors but people didn’t believe them:
twitter.com/WLaowai8/status/1225637845508837377

@Yourtunbridgewells: The info you are sharing (472000 deaths in the UK) is very scary. Is this a worst case scenario.

@justdeckingthehalls: Epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding writes that it is airborne on twitter: twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1226236552059260928
N95 masks help against airborne transmission don’t they?

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anonacfr · 11/02/2020 22:49

Trump has announced that the virus would disappear by April when temperatures go up.
In the meantime they have cut down CDC budget and as far as I know hasn't even appointed a new director so they better hope things don't escalate in the States.

littlemissmuffins · 11/02/2020 22:55

Why haven't we temporarily banned air travel from the most affected countries?? At least 16 other nations have, including the US and Australia. Gatwick aren't even doing temp checks, only messages on the intercom ffs!! Flights from China still coming in. Where is the government's sense in all this, given the WHO have declared it a grave threat??

I think people should be putting more pressure on the government to act on this very soon..

LoadsaBlusher · 11/02/2020 23:02

I read elsewhere “ look what they DO, not what they say ”

So there is radio silence but we are making new laws to forcibly quarantine People

Jenasaurus · 11/02/2020 23:34

www.forbes.com/sites/johnscottlewinski/2020/02/07/uk-doctor-uses-youtube-to-treat-panic-of-coronavirus-myths/?fbclid=IwAR1MqDmw9lBiyQ3KDEtGptsrKCawVNoqHQXX8TJxB8r4WmLAGhrnKm9Y37g#c598c112c512

I am following John Campbell on youtube, his videos are based on science and facts and in part reassuring

LoadsaBlusher · 11/02/2020 23:37

I just wish to be reassured
So the number one story in Daily news is Boris advertising the new railway...
Hmmm...

I truly hope and wish a new railway is our main concern

Jenasaurus · 11/02/2020 23:39

His latest one is here

LoadsaBlusher · 11/02/2020 23:39

jenasaurus yes John Campbell has been very good so far.

I fear I am being swayed by Reddit threads and the absence of anything concrete from our actual leaders though.

floatygoat · 12/02/2020 02:06

Case fatality rates (CFR) ~3.06% with significant gender difference

  • Male 4.45%
  • Female 1.25%

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…

AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued
AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued
WaterSheep · 12/02/2020 06:53

If the following report is true, then no wonder it's continuing to spread so quickly in China. The poor medical staff aren't being given a chance to recover, and are potentially passing it on to those they are treating.

One doctor at a community clinic in Wuhan said he and at least 16 other colleagues were showing symptoms of Covid-19, including lung infections and coughing.

As doctors, we do not want to work while being a source of infection,” he told AFP, before adding that they had to carry on because “there is no one to replace you.

fripperyclose · 12/02/2020 06:55

Give it a rest - I'm sure the World Health Organisation don't consider it this.*

I thought it was quite clear I was talking about the port talbot nonsense.

fripperyclose · 12/02/2020 06:59

The Brighton bloke who got it has recovered fine. I realise there are worries for vulnerable people but certain people keep insisting it's "not just the flu" and make it sound like a death sentence.

WaterSheep · 12/02/2020 07:04

The Brighton bloke who got it has recovered fine.

He claims to be recovered. However, we don't know long term consequences, so he might not be fine in the long term.

Ciwirocks · 12/02/2020 07:16

What worries me is that we haven’t heard anything about the Chinese pair from York who were diagnosed almost 2 weeks ago now. Do they have mild illness or are they seriously ill? I am really hoping that the further this disease gets from wuhan the milder it becomes

Delatron · 12/02/2020 07:21

I was wondering about the pair from York. Considering we’ve had the positive update from the Brighton man. Were they diagnosed before him? It’s reassuring no more York cases have come out though?

GothMummy · 12/02/2020 07:27

@Delatron me too, I keep wondering about the pair from York, there have been no updates on their condition which I thought was unusual.

WaterSheep · 12/02/2020 07:30

Considering how quickly we've heard that the "Super Spreader" has fully recovered, the silence on the pair from York is a little worrying.

Jenasaurus · 12/02/2020 07:47

Yes I agree regarding the lack of information about the York cases. Also according to this source there is a chance of relapse

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7973905/Patients-recovered-killer-coronavirus-infected-AGAIN.html

floatygoat · 12/02/2020 07:48

Ummmm, the super spreader recovering doesn't discount the figures....many don't recover

AIBU to ask if you are worried about the new coronavirus? - continued
RedToothBrush · 12/02/2020 07:50

If the following report is true, then no wonder it's continuing to spread so quickly in China. The poor medical staff aren't being given a chance to recover, and are potentially passing it on to those they are treating.

One of the reasons that so many medics have caught the virus is down to a lack of protective equipment.

When seriously ill patient become unconscious there are certain procedures that need to be done to keep them alive. But these mean they are prone to throwing up or coughing lots when they were highly infectious. Medical staff have been doing this 'naked' with no surgical mask or any other equipment because there was none left.

There was a study of one hospital with 138 patients from early in the outbreak. 41% of people who caught it were in the hospital. 29% were staff, 12% were patients.

This was again down to lack of equipment and proper infection control measures combined with staff not understanding what they were dealing with initially.

This is why the NHS are taking the issue so seriously. They fear a mass outbreak in a hospital.

It looks like the Wuhan outbreak may have started at the food market but the next place it took off was the hospital, amongst patients, visitors, staff and family members.

Again this is a repeat of what happened with SARS.

One of the things they are particularly worried about with COVID-19 is a mutation which makes the virus a lot worse. It shares common features with SARS which had a very high death rate. The first wave of Spanish flu was mild but the later autumn one wasn't. The more it spreads the greater the chance of a mutation.

They want to slow things down as much as possible to find ways to treat the disease better, especially in the event it becomes worse.

Echobelly · 12/02/2020 07:51

Still not especially worried, but I am taking my laptop home every night just in case the office gets shut - we do have quite a lot of people who go back and forth to China, so it's possible a staff member could get infected, and also just in case it gets past a certain number of cases in London and they decide to close down for a bit.

No one in my immediate family has any health problems that might make it dangerous to them, so not too worried about it on that level.

NemophilistRebel · 12/02/2020 07:54

I hope they’ve stopped people going and coming from China by now Shock

EnidBlyton · 12/02/2020 07:57

Still worried since I take inhalers, have copd
but more worried for my family

covetingthepreciousthings · 12/02/2020 08:01

What worries me is that we haven’t heard anything about the Chinese pair from York who were diagnosed almost 2 weeks ago now.

Does anyone know, with this case, IF the pair requested that there was no more media around that, would it be approved? I can't think why they would, but if they said they don't want any more news regarding their status, or recovery, could that be why we've heard no more? Out of privacy.

Though, you would think if they were recovering or recovered they would like people to know.

WaterSheep · 12/02/2020 08:12

covetingthepreciousthings

I would think privacy would be respected, so no names, or other personal information. However, with regards to their condition, if they had recovered or been released then a statement would have been made saying so.

Ciwirocks · 12/02/2020 08:14

I think public health England have to submit accurate statistics but patient confidentiality would be upheld as far as possible so that is possibly why we haven’t heard anything. I have found these statistics which indicate no one is critical in the uk so possibly a good sign? www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Almost all the critical cases are in China and Singapore but that might be because the cases elsewhere are newer?

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