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The Toilet Seat Saga

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Rosebyanothername19 · 09/02/2020 23:04

Basically my husband and I have an ongoing dispute over the downstairs toilet. I have asked him a million times to put the lid down after he uses it - which is about every half hour...

I have sent him links to articles about hygiene and also put a large note on top of the toilet asking nicely to put the lid down in case he just forgets. I have pointed our that our baby is going to be crawling soon and, as the downstairs loo is between the living room and kitchen, she is probably going to end up in there numerous times.

Every request is met with an eye roll and him saying that's it's not a big deal or just ignored.

So tonight I have decided that every time he leaves the lid up I will empty a beer down the sink and leave the bottle upside down. I haven't told him this and I'm just going to start doing it and wait until he asks or realises what is going on.

AIBU?

OP posts:
ZombieFan · 10/02/2020 00:27

Lid down before the flush to avoid the aerosol effect with bacteria. ...Quick check for marks that need dealing with

So you close lid, flush and then reopen to check for marks? That's a bit rank! Also the toilet seat will be covered in these mythical poo particles which will rub off onto your back every time you sit on the toilet. So unless you clean the underside of the toilet seat after every flush then that is going to spread poo particles everywhere you sit.

ofwarren · 10/02/2020 00:27

www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/a22777060/close-the-toilet-seat/ it's called the "toilet plume," a.k.a. the germs and fecal matter that get shot upwards — up to 15 feet high! — with the force created by the sudden gush of water.
Leaving the seat up and flushing is disgusting. Especially if your toothbrushes are in the room.

ofwarren · 10/02/2020 00:30

I don't think the link worked www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/a22777060/close-the-toilet-seat/

Gemz1806 · 10/02/2020 00:34

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7377002.stm

Do you close your laptop/phone/computer every time you sneeze cough or blow your nose? Do you share a personal device without argument?

I know the artical is 2008 but.. g
erms are around us all the time. Is it really worth falling out over?

ofwarren · 10/02/2020 00:38

That's talking about toilet seats, not what's flying out of the toilet. I don't want to be putting a toothbrush in my mouth with other people's shit on it. I don't put my laptop in my mouth.

Jimsmum61 · 10/02/2020 00:43

I use a deodorant cap over my toothbrush in the bathroom.
My hubby is good at putting the lid down on loo since I told him about the poo particles landing on his toothbrush and I have covered his toothbrush too.
Why would loo seats come with a lid if it isn't supposed to be used? It's just not a good thought is it to think of all the particles of wee and poo flying about the house?
Another hintbuy a slow closing loo seatfrom experience men love a gadget and will stand and watch it closing lol!

Mycatsaninja · 10/02/2020 00:44

I get it OP, I always put the lid/seat down and it annoys me when someone doesn't. It's actually a lack of respect and your DH is being very immature about it . Hold firm OP !!

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 10/02/2020 01:06

If you were going to do the beer thing you could just save an empty bottle and hide a full one each time so it looks like you’ve wasted it but haven’t really.

Considering how funny mn is about certain things I’m actually really surprised that the consensus is lid doesn’t need to be down. We all do it automatically since our old dog used to drink from it. She’s been dead 4 years but we still all do it.

ProclivitiesMcManus · 10/02/2020 01:10

Any alternative suggestions?

Learn to live with the seat up? It's never occurred to me to close it. I and my children seem to have got through life without bubonic plague.

Squirreltamer · 10/02/2020 01:17

Maybe it’s just me. But I think a few germs are good. The germs from flushing will be nothing compared to the amount of crap a baby will put in it’s mouth.

Is this why kids these days get so many allergies because we are all too clean and eating processed crap?

Gladly your cats will be doing you and your baby a service by walking in poo particles and resting their bum holes on all your cushions.

Honestly people visually clean is fine. You’re not living in an hospital doing open heart surgery.

WhatWouldJasonBourneDo · 10/02/2020 01:17

I have the opposite problem... boys who won't put the seat up. It's waaaaaaayyyyyy worse!!

ZombieFan · 10/02/2020 01:18

Here’s a short list of all the places scientists have found poop bacteria:

â—½On computer keyboards
â—½In your kitchen sponge, on the kitchen drain, and on your kitchen sink tap handles (By the way, this same study found that kitchens had more fecal bacteria than bathrooms! Toilet seats were actually one of the least contaminated spots in the whole house.)
â—½All over your phone
â—½In a "fecal veneer" on indoor climbing walls
â—½Hanging out on grocery shopping carts
â—½On your shoes (duh)
◽Inside all of your clothes, probably because you wash them with your underwear—which contains a tenth of a gram (!!) of fecal bacteria per pair, on average
â—½Surrounding you in every hotel room you've ever been in
â—½Literally in the air you breathe

"Bacteria from poop is all around you all the time and there’s really nothing you can do about it. And why would you need to? It’s only a very small minority of bacteria—yes, even from your poop—that can make you physically ill. Lots of the organisms hanging out in your crap were just swept out from the inside of your intestines, where they’ve set up colonies that help you digest your food and regulate all kinds of bodily functions.

It’s nothing to be afraid of. We would be a pretty useless species if we got sick from every little microorganism that crossed our path. Even those bacteria that pose a potential threat are often neutralized by our immune systems. Most just never pose us any harm.

The reason "fecal bacteria" sounds so threatening is that plenty of legitimately awful, dangerous diseases spread via poop. Hepatitis, typhoid fever, cholera, norovirus, polio, E. coli, tape worms, giardia, rotavirus—they'll all spread via the aptly named fecal-oral route. You don't want to get any of these, which is why we've developed an evolutionary aversion to poop in general. It's just better to stay away from it.

But just because some truly terrible illnesses spread via poop doesn't mean that the bacteria we find all over everything are dangerous. They just happen to come from poop. Yes, you should wash your hands when you use the bathroom and yes, you can reduce the bacteria on your hands by using paper towels over hand dryers (jet dryers are better than standard ones, but worse than paper towels).

The fact remains, however, that poopy microorganisms are all around you all the time and there’s just not much you can do about that except to embrace them. They are the tiny pathogens that help bolster your immune system and create colonies of organisms that make your body the beautiful, diverse place that it is. Celebrate them! And wash your hands."

Purpleartichoke · 10/02/2020 01:21

I would just childproof the toilet now. Installing the lid lock is easy.

YummyChipCurryDip · 10/02/2020 01:23

My husband has started habitually closing the lid, for some inexplicable reason, after 40 years of leaving it up. In the middle of the night I've sat down and started to per before my bum hit the lid. Have you ever tried to stop mid flow? My gripe is the opposite to op.

morrisseysquif · 10/02/2020 01:26

Lid or seat? Seat, he should put down, lid, well not so much.

saraclara · 10/02/2020 01:30

The only time I put a toilet lid down was if I had to wee in the night and didn't want to wake anyone with the flush (when I still had family living here). If it the lid was down anyone getting up before me would know to flush before lifting it to use the loo themselves. Other than that. Nope.

If he was leaving the seat up, you'd be reasonable. But the lid? Nah.

Harakeke · 10/02/2020 01:36

Usually MN threads are a bit hysterical about germs. It's nice to see one where people are more reasoned!

Sorry OP, but I'm with your DH.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 10/02/2020 01:46

Bloody hell, who thinks about a toilet seat this much.
He's ignoring you because it's ridiculous.

MiniMum97 · 10/02/2020 01:51

I agree with you OP. You have made a very reasonable request for marital harmony. It's something that would take him all of half a second to do and it would make you happy yet he is refusing to do it? I would ask him why? Why would you just not go, OK that ones easy, and it would make my partner happy. Also she's much more likely to be receptive when I want something. Surely that's a much healthier relationship than digging your heels in over a small and reasonable request.

MN is weird.

THEDEACON · 10/02/2020 01:55

thanks for the idea ! Goes to prepare to flush som ecider

Rubyupbeat · 10/02/2020 01:56

Keep the door shut?

Rubyupbeat · 10/02/2020 01:57

Surely a lid up wont matter, as you have insinuated that he puddles over the floor anyway. Safer to shut the door.

Nitpickpicnic · 10/02/2020 04:39

If you do go ahead with the beer thing, at least keep using the same empty bottle & cap. Hide the drinkable beers in the linen cupboard. He doesn’t sound like a linen cupboard guy.

These issues need a ‘fire with fire’ approach. Yours is a little passive aggressive (which has its place, but not usually).

I’d leave my lady products around that loo for a while. Stop when he does. No conversations entered into. What can he say?

Incontinencesucks · 10/02/2020 04:58

As pp mentioned, your cats will be spreading around far more crap on their paws all over your house..

UnsuitableAvocado · 10/02/2020 05:03

Budweiser is Beer. (Lager Beer to be exact) The tagline used by the company used to be King of Beers. Not sure if it still is.

Not sure if you assuming it's something pretend or cheap or alcohol free.