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To pay my mother in law to look after DC's fulltime?

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swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 09:45

I'm considering going back to study a full time uni course with placements next Autumn. I'm currently part time so able to do most pick ups and drop offs to school and preschool. I cannot see how I can work around this when I could be on placements, as they can be up to ten miles away and long shifts. My DP's job is very inflexible and long hours.
The only option I can think of is asking my mother in law to quit her job and to stay at ours in the week to help. She has suggested this in the past but I had to explain that I currently wouldn't be able to afford it. She currently works 8.30-3.30 Monday to Friday in a school office, and she hates her job. I think I'd reimburse her around £600 per month, which is possibly less than she earns now. I know she needs to work and they are looking at moving next year so her wages are being counted towards the new mortgage (less than £20,000 but still.) She told me she'd love to retire now but that she can't afford to quit.
My concerns are she is quite unwell (diabetes, asthma, immunity problems) and she might find the school run tiring (who doesn't!) Even though it's only a very short walk, it's the getting two kids out the door at a certain time and then there's the scooters, cars, running! I worry it will tire her out and she'll get quite stressed.
My other (selfish) concern is that she doesn't 'do' much with the children so they would be watching telly from 3-6.30 with no homework, reading, park trips, swimming etc. She doesn't drive and wouldn't get the bus with them so it would be home and then they'd be bored and mischievous. She also feeds them loads of rubbish food and I feel I would have to be strict with that, which might cause tension. On Saturday in two hours she gave them a punnet of blueberries, four satsumas, a choc ice, a bag of popcorn, a fruit shoot and two bags of sweets. They were high from sugar all night long!
It would be a very sensitive subject to breach as an obviously she would be doing me a massive favour if she did agree. Yet I would also want to have some input into the routine. Also what would happen after I graduated? Would she find work again for the two years before retirement? Has anyone done similar? Did it work out?

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swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 15:27

@Drum2018 I didn't say she didn't interact with them, I said it would be hard for her to do structured activities as she can't drive and has anxiety which prevents her from even taking the kids to the park.

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swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 15:37

@Instatwat nothing surprises me about MN anymore.

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averythinline · 05/02/2020 15:47

I wouldn't do it for many many reasons but check out finance options the uni student services should be able to advise...

crustycrab · 05/02/2020 15:52

So you still think you're not a CF of the highest order? Grin

norealshepherds · 05/02/2020 15:53

It doesn’t sound like a good idea to me

MinkowskisButterfly · 05/02/2020 16:00

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

MrsItsNoworNotatAll1 · 05/02/2020 16:03

You need to have a chat with her really.

Some harsh replies here.

RhymingRabbit3 · 05/02/2020 16:08

I think your OP was confusing because you said that you would ask MIL to have them "fulltime" when in fact, your update says that it's just before and after school 3 days a week which isnt even close to full time.
Incidentally £600pm isnt the same as £200 a week.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 05/02/2020 16:10

So many people that don't seem to be able to read.
Ops mil has offered to do this before!

LettertoHermoine · 05/02/2020 16:11

So it's gone from paying her £600 a month to £699 per month?

WorraLiberty · 05/02/2020 16:13

My Dp would also have one day off in the week

From his very inflexible job?

swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 16:15

@Instatwat nothing surprises me about MN anymore.

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WorraLiberty · 05/02/2020 16:18

I didn't say she didn't interact with them, I said it would be hard for her to do structured activities as she can't drive and has anxiety which prevents her from even taking the kids to the park.

My other (selfish) concern is that she doesn't 'do' much with the children so they would be watching telly from 3-6.30 with no homework, reading, park trips, swimming etc.

Sorry, I'm confused OP Confused

How does being unable to drive and having anxiety, prevent her from helping the kids with their homework and reading with them?

Why would they end up watching TV for 3.5 hours, if you're not saying she doesn't interact with them?

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 05/02/2020 16:21

But it's not a proper employer/employee relationship.... She'd be looking and developing a close relationship with her grandchildren!

mdh2020 · 05/02/2020 16:25

Your MiL would lose a chunk of her pension if she works for you. I assume you planning to pay her cash in hand? I have every sympathy for you as I went back to full time studying when my DC were both in primary school. I was able to drop them off every morning, albeit a little early than I might have done, and they would walk home together after school. I would get home about the same time as them, or just after them. Of course, nowadays social services would be called but they survived and learnt a lot about independence. Could you take an OU course instead so you study at home while they are at school? You might also be able to work p/t. It doesn’t really sound as if she would be the right carer for the children.

MyDcAreMarvel · 05/02/2020 16:37

Your MiL would lose a chunk of her pension if she works for you. she wouldn’t actually, grandparents can receive NI contributions for caring for their grandchildren.

Thedeadwood · 05/02/2020 16:40

OP, you obviously think this is a smashing plan with no drawbacks and see nothing contradictory in the things you've posted. So not sure why you posted in the first place??!

swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 16:43

@Thedeadwood obviously I don't otherwise I wouldn't have posted my concerns re: food and stimulation.

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 05/02/2020 16:45

Most of the men I know ( my DP included) would love to swap roles, but a certain income is required and who ever is able to get this (or more) has to do it.

If most men would love to be SAHPs it's very strange that almost none are?

Sometimes reading MN you'd think the gender pay gap (which is real, and a problem) was 100%. It is actually possible for women to earn actual wages, not just pin money...

swimmingpoolshower · 05/02/2020 16:54

@LisaSimpsonsbff that's why I want to retrain to be a social worker. I've been in boring admin jobs for years, I want a career! It's just a shame it's so hard to do further education as a parent if you don't have a partner who can drop everything to help out and keep earning enough to keep you all afloat.

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Bella2020 · 05/02/2020 16:55

You'll be entitled to apply for a (means tested) childcare grant when you start your studies. It sounds like you don't really want your MiL to look after your kids.

Dragonembroidery · 05/02/2020 16:57

She gave them blueberries and four sassumes too. Thats healthy. A thread the other day said one punnet blueberries a week was a needless luxury.

Do you ask for itemised list of everything they've consumed. V rude. I don't even get that from professional ofsted registered childminder.
Pay for childcare.
You people whinging about your ample parental support on both sides, should realise how hard it is without any. And be more grateful.

Dragonembroidery · 05/02/2020 17:00

Also she'd need to register with lea and have ofsted inspection. Any 'rewarded' childcare provider of more than 3 hours a week, needs to.

Marriedwithchildren5 · 05/02/2020 17:18

**Also she'd need to register with lea and have ofsted inspection. Any 'rewarded' childcare provider of more than 3 hours a week, needs to.

Shes the grandparent. Its expenses surely!I

MarthasGinYard · 05/02/2020 17:22

'I'm WC, maybe a bit MC cos I went to uni. I am also a part time cleaner for MC families and have lots of MC friends.'

In this previous thread last week I was on you'd been to Uni already.

Confusing

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