AIBU to ask you if you are worried about the new Coronavirus?

[IvyBush123]

I am not sure if there is reason to worry about the new Coronavirus. I am not a medical expert but to be honest feel a bit scared because we know so little and some experts seem worried. How do you think?

I think you're being a bit optimistic. There has been no statement that people are only considered recovered if lab test have demonstrated this. We don't do a lab test normally to decide if someone has recovered from flu and I don't see why this would be any different.

I think I read that some of the cases somewhere (possibly Germany?) had had symptoms and now didn't but were still in hospital because they were still testing positive so they were just waiting for that to end before releasing them. I don't know if these people would count as "recovered"? I imagine China isn't doing this level of testing though.

The German case is a reassuring but were not hearing much reassuring words from other countries

I believe that as of a couple of days ago the four confirmed cases in Canada had all been discharged from hospital (at least one was never admitted and self isolated at home while ill). Obviously like the German case you mentioned, this is a tiny number in the grand scheme of things, and is in a country that could focus all resources necessary on it but still, mildly reassuring. the fact the Canadian man was able to stay home and self isolate makes me think there must be far more cases than recorded. If you were in Wuhan, and were ill but didn't need to go to hospital, you'd probably stay home.

In terms of numbers reported as recovered, and to those saying the illness is protracted in length, take into account that this all kicked off very recently, starting slowly and then from last month picking up the pace with new diagnoses daily. Given the incubation period it really hasn’t been that long. Flu for example can take weeks to recover from. It is true that the term “recovery” is obscure and as mentioned above there’s a lot that can be read into the numbers. Perhaps take it to mean out of the danger zone? I fully expect this number in particular to increase.

I’m wondering if there is some sort of self reporting system in place in Wuhan, where people can text in if they fall poorly with symptoms of Coronavirus, even if mild?

Tbh I’ve been more shocked learning about how many people die from flu every year, something I was pretty oblivious to before.

Tbh I’ve been more shocked learning about how many people die from flu every year, something I was pretty oblivious to before.

Not in this country though thanks to vaccinations.

Flu for example can take weeks to recover from. It is true that the term “recovery” is obscure and as mentioned above there’s a lot that can be read into the numbers. Perhaps take it to mean out of the danger zone? I fully expect this number in particular to increase.

Undoubtedly flu can take weeks to recover but healthy people often recover a week or two. I really hope we start to see numbers increase soon and perhaps some reassuring words regarding their health of those that haven't fully recovered yet. At the moment we don't know if they're on their way to recovery or the opposite.

Seriously people, get some perspective. The number of people who have died from this disease as a total of the world population is absolutely minuscule. As I said earlier, you have more chance of being run over or hit by a bus, but presumably you don't worry about that every time you leave the house?

I wasn't worried until I heard that the doctor who raised concerns initially had died. He was presumably a healthy adult with a good immune system and should have been getting the best treatment from his fellow medics. Desperately sad and shows how vicious the virus can be.

Seriously people, get some perspective. The number of people who have died from this disease as a total of the world population is absolutely minuscule.

Firstly, it is hardly surprising that there are few confirmed deaths considering this is a new virus and it appears it might take up to a month to kill healthy people. Secondly, we don't know how many deaths there have been so far because most won't have been documented. All we know is that this situation is far from under control, the deaths keep increasing and there is no vaccine yet so that will probably continue. There have also not been many reported recoveries.

I certainly don't worry that I'll catch it when I leave the house (yet), nor am I prepping for it, but I'm keeping an eye on it, for sure.
Partly because of professional interest, but also because it can become a full blown international crisis affecting Europe as well, on top of the flu, and affect the economy.

There is a middle ground between panicking and dismissing it altogether. Both are wrong.

Have we heard anything about the quarantined people in the staff accommodation block in Liverpool?

Have we heard anything about the quarantined people in the staff accommodation block in Liverpool?

We would have heard if any had been infected so they must be okay so far.

The number of people who have died from this disease as a total of the world population is absolutely minuscule.

Considered estimates of about 50000 new cases per day, doubling every 5 days, a replication rate of 2.3-2.8 and a death rate of 2%.

I really hope we start to see numbers increase soon and perhaps some reassuring words regarding their health of those that haven't fully recovered yet. At the moment we don't know if they're on their way to recovery or the opposite.

As already said, It really is very early days yet, given when infected, incubation period and time to recovery.

I absolutely agree with @Lweji - it’s a case of watchful waiting, No point in either guessing and presuming the worst, or ignoring it altogether.

Have we heard anything about the quarantined people in the staff accommodation block in Liverpool?

The first group have had no problems or signs of infection to date. They've been told that if things stay that way they can leave next week. I think next Thursday. The one who spoke to the media said they were relieved and felt the end was in sight for them.

It's a bit more complicated for the second group of 10 who arrived later. A Belgium woman in their flight has been confirmed with the virus and another UK passenger didn't make it to the Wirral as they felt unwell at Brise Norton so they were shipped to a hospital in Oxford for observation. There has been no word about how they are doing and whether they do or don't have coronavirus.

I am worried about it now. Are people recovering ?
I wasn’t very worried, but when I read about the Doctor dying I started to feel much more concerned.
The rumours on twitter are the typical conspiracy theory things of this being an engineered virus, very little info seems to be coming out of China.

Have you all seen the video of Chinese government rounding up an infected couple and putting them in a metal box? Or read about senators being briefed that China are under reporting the dead/infected by x1000. This is a bio weapon that is being used to cripple the upcoming world superpower. And the Chinese gov are likely killing people to prevent the spread at this point, as they don’t want their trade ports affected. We know China are capable of massive human rights violations. The police are also rounding up phones and destroying them to censor info coming out on the web.

Singapore has announced three more cases of coronavirus in people who have not been to China.

4 cases are not recent arrivals from China and can't be linked to any of the previous cases, suggesting wider local community spread of the virus in Singapore. Which fits with the Brighton Case.

www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/wuhan-coronavirus-dorscon-orange-singapore-risk-assessment-12405180
Coronavirus outbreak: Singapore raises DORSCON level to orange; schools to suspend inter-school, external activities

The colour-coded system - which has Green, Yellow, Orange and Red categories - shows the current situation. It also indicates what needs to be done to prevent and reduce the impact of infections.

DORSCON Orange means that the disease is deemed severe and spreads easily from person to person, but has not spread widely and is being contained.

Except there is no sign whatsoever that it is being contained.

@Cocobean30 Are you saying it's an American attack? Surely that cannot be true.

Laura Bicker @bbclbicker
More reports of #coronavirus in North Korea and the Daily NK claims 5 people have died.

I cannot emphasize enough - this is all unconfirmed. Nor do we even know if North Korea has ability to diagnose this virus. I tweet this as something to watch and of interest not as a report

The Daily NK @TheDailyNK
Daily NK sources in North Pyongan Province reported today that five North Koreans died of coronavirus infections in Sinuiju and a nearby area. They were patients at hospitals reportedly suffering from high fevers before their deaths.

So far we have had only 2 deaths outside China. Deaths in North Korea would be a real worry because there is no state cooperation with WHO since North Korea make China look open and Liberal. And China is a friendly state in comparison too.

The disease being widespread in a human population even if its normally isolated, is worry because even if it is contained elsewhere (which isn't looking likely) then there's still potentially a weak link here for future infections.

Not good if there is truth to this.

Interesting thread. Not worried, maybe I will be once I rtft.

On the upside, we aren't going to see many holidaymakers from North Korea.

And there is another cruise ship in New Jersey which is under surveillance with some 1 to 2 dozen Chinese nationals apparently showing potential signs of infection

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-news-china-symptoms-shortage-protective-equipment-who-deaths-a9323286.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1581075096
Coronavirus: World facing shortage of protective equipment against deadly virus, WHO says

@DontCallMeDarling that would never be admitted if true (well not for 50 years). I’ve read somewhere the strain of virus originated in a Canadian lab but was stolen by a Chinese couple that worked there and sent back to Wuhan. If they were communist spies it’s not hard to think USA would retaliate by releasing it in wuhan lab. People don’t like to think these things happen but they need to research it deeper than what the media are portraying. We should all know by now that media is propaganda and censored. Even in UK.

twitter.com/chaddha_lal/status/1225420707384844290?s=20

**the spy thing is a conspiracy theory but I do believe it is a bio weapon

@Cocobean30 do you have any sources you can quote re this being a bio weapon and your other assertions? Eg the info you say you read somewhere? The only info I’ve seen on this has been well and truly proven to be incorrect.

Researching is all very well, but the source needs to be reliable, otherwise it’s just conspiracy theory. Here’s an example www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/02/russian-disinformation-coronavirus/