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AIBU to ask you if you are worried about the new Coronavirus?

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IvyBush123 · 04/02/2020 06:41

I am not sure if there is reason to worry about the new Coronavirus. I am not a medical expert but to be honest feel a bit scared because we know so little and some experts seem worried. How do you think?

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Dongdingdong · 06/02/2020 02:25

Nope, not worried in the slightest. You’ve got far more chance of having a road accident/being hit by a bus!

Dennisreynoldsduster · 06/02/2020 02:45

I’m also worried about the effect on th economy and services/food supply etc if this really hits.
And it’s not really showing any signs of stopping so far is it, if anything the numbers seem to be increasing at an alarming rate and that’s without the possibility that the official numbers are being downplayed

Casino218 · 06/02/2020 02:56

I got slightly worried last week due to where I work and the case of corona virus being located there. However I'm not now.

ShanghaiDiva · 06/02/2020 05:03

@Dennisreynoldsduster
I think it was Tencent that posted higher numbers, but not sure if they were accurate or not.
I am sure there are many people who have had it and didn’t know and those in rural areas who don’t have easy access to a medical centre will also not have been counted/included in totals.

Dennisreynoldsduster · 06/02/2020 05:11

Very true - 24k dead would be a whole different ball game though and the extreme measures being taken in China would make a lot more sense.
Although there is so much fake news out there it’s really hard to try and wade through it and take a measured view!

ShanghaiDiva · 06/02/2020 05:17

I think the extreme measures are necessary as no vaccine, long incubation period and high infection rate. Whether the numbers are higher in China is a moot point as limiting contact with other people and practising good personal hygiene is all that can be done.
Limiting contact is being actioned in various ways: school closures, travel restrictions, working from home, reducing access to compounds for non residents...etc
Whether you feel action being taken by other countries (eg no entry from China) is a separate issue.
You in general, not a specific poster!

NaturalBornWoman · 06/02/2020 06:55

The thing about 24k dead was in the Taiwan press yesterday and it was being said that the real numbers were leaked. The figures showed the mortality rate at something like 14%. Someone had posted the same graphic on here a few days ago but no source and someone else came along and said the numbers were the wrong way round.

Lweji · 06/02/2020 07:37

Someone had posted the same graphic on here a few days ago but no source and someone else came along and said the numbers were the wrong way round.

That was me. It's written in chinese/whatever characters and the numbers match very well the WHO updates for the same day (date in western characters) but in a different order.

People can learn how to read whatever language that was in, believe whoever tells them what it means or go with the simplest explanation.

Mrsemcgregor · 06/02/2020 07:38

Circa 28k confirmed cases, 565 deaths and 1600 recovered. Circa 26k outcomes unknown.

gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

This podcast is well researched and non alarmist.

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-43-m-m-m-my-coronaviruses/id1299915173?i=1000464558660

Mrsemcgregor · 06/02/2020 07:40
  • sorry 1230 recovered.
NemophilistRebel · 06/02/2020 08:26

The same story is being reported in tawain though. Surly they can read this correctly

It’s also being reported in CNN , Indian Times

It’s also all been all over reddit, Twitter and lots of other platforms before being in mainstream media

There’s enough people worried the leak could be true or have elements of truth due to how unbelievable the current figures we are being fed are

That along with Chinese shutdown of media and increased censorship on the virus

NemophilistRebel · 06/02/2020 08:27

Caijings report on the real situation on 1st February was censored before it got into mainstream media

NemophilistRebel · 06/02/2020 08:29

Even before this people were reporting of officials cremating the dead before adding to official death toll

They also only are counting the dead as having died of Coronavirus if they have had a positive test first.

The problem is there isn’t enough tests and the tests aren’t 100% reliable

Lweji · 06/02/2020 08:47

A serious study has estimated that China has/had 10x the number of infected than reported. This could be for a number of reasons.
It's also possible or even likely that the number of dead is greater than reported.
Do I think it's more than 10x higher? Not really.

RedToothBrush · 06/02/2020 09:20

It’s also being reported in CNN , Indian Times

It’s also all been all over reddit, Twitter and lots of other platforms before being in mainstream media

The mainstream media has increasingly having a problem in reporting rumours or unreliable information without checking if its credible.

If one person says its raining and the other says its not, it's not the job of journalists to report both sides, it's the job of the journalist to go outside and check if its fucking raining.

In this case it is admittedly more difficult to do this due to state secrets of China and nit having on the ground journalists. But if mainstream media does report unsubstantiated rumours they are running the risk of undermining their credibility and spreading panic especially if they are not heavily stressing its a rumour to a level where a reader is also repeating this.

The trouble here is there are a lot of people who are either scared or looking for a 'real life disaster movie' to watch who unconsciously or deliberately want to believe the higher numbers without properly questioning it.

Again, this is where watching what happens outside China is particularly important. Indeed the quarantined cruise ships are possibly small scale 'test tubes'.

Yesterday there were no new reported cases in Europe. That's a good sign. What's more worrying is potential signs of new localised hotspots in Thailand and the Philippines.

And the news that some African countries won't even get coronavirus testing kits until tomorrow.

Personally I do think China are downplaying figures but I'm not sure I think the 'leaked' figures are closer to the truth either.

teta · 06/02/2020 09:28

www.sixthtone.com/news/1005112/coronavirus-latest-updates
Latest updates at Sixthtone.
Plus the criteria for the initial cases was very stringent ,hence the reason for the under-reporting initially.

ofwarren · 06/02/2020 13:24

Department of health saying another case of coronavirus found in the UK. No information other than that they contracted it out of the country.

ofwarren · 06/02/2020 13:41

amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/06/third-person-in-uk-confirmed-as-having-coronavirus?__twitter_impression=true the guardian are saying the 3rd case of coronavirus is in Brighton

skyblu · 06/02/2020 14:26

Not ‘worried’ but I do have caution in mind and am following the news about it.

ofwarren · 06/02/2020 15:14

The case in Brighton was contracted from an Asian country, but not China. DOH won't say where from or if the person is a British National.

woodchuck99 · 06/02/2020 15:37

The case in Brighton was contracted from an Asian country, but not China. DOH won't say where from or if the person is a British National.

That's very worrying as there aren't supposed to be many cases elsewhere and people from other countries haven't been told they should quarantine themselves if they have symptoms. I really hope that he sought help quickly otherwise he could have infected loads of people.

RedToothBrush · 06/02/2020 16:07

Brighton case sounds ominous tbh. Sounds very much like it's now uncontrolled outside China.

woodchuck99 · 06/02/2020 16:21

Brighton case sounds ominous tbh. Sounds very much like it's now uncontrolled outside China.

Yes, and the lack of information makes it feel more ominous.

woodchuck99 · 06/02/2020 16:25

In the case they were quick to say that the risk was low and that the student hadn't been on campus etc. There is a noticeable lack of reassuring words about the Brighton case apart from the NHS is well-prepared to manage cases which we all know is bullshit.

RedToothBrush · 06/02/2020 16:25

One of the other worrying things is the number of medics who seem to be dying from this.

It depends on whether they have pre existing conditions themselves, but their age - working age - is concerning.

The first deaths outside China were age 39 and 44 too.