To find SOME Brexiteer gloating embarrassing?

[SirChing]

I have read threads saying that we have left and "nothing has happened, just like the millennium bug".

Well, that'll be because we are transition so the No Deal situation has been avoided - for now.

And the millennium bug didn't happen because loads of IT people worked their arses off for years to prevent it.

I have read a rant about us needing new passports for this summer costing £1000, due to remained MPs and civil servants wanting to "punish" leavers.

I am cringing at the level of gloating and "so nerr" posts on here, flinging about bollocks as facts, and celebrating something which noone seems to be able to demonstrate any positives for.

Just me?

and they were handed their majority from the very people that needed the most protection from them.
I find it hard to forgive or feel sorry for their 'feelings'.

@malylis It is you talking rubbish now. Yes there are grants whose criteria is only open to ethnic minorities. I have applied for and got them.

Total change in the goal posts there eh?

@theunknownknown Then nothing will change.
I want a left wing Government to win power. But you have to understand voters first and then understand what has emotional resonance.

@malylis What makes you think I have changed the goal posts? I have said many times that I am not English.

Red tape karencantobe red tape. Admittedly it was not Cameron who said this - but it was a leave campaign strapline. And the removal of the legal obligations to uphold our working rights should ring alarm bells for a lot of people. And one of the orchestrators of the leave campaign is now at the helm with a huge majority.
They told us clearly. And yet they were still voted in.
Racism is the biggest part of it. By far the biggest.
And that makes me ashamed to be British.

No one else is going to leave the EU. Not only is it still popular in most countries, no sane government would look at how brexit has damaged UK politics and society and the economy and offer a referendum.

Even Marine le Pen doesn't want Frexit anymore.

www.euractiv.com/section/eu-elections-2019/news/le-pens-rassemblement-national-makes-its-ties-to-the-eu-and-the-euro-official/

Racism has been around for a long time. Yes it has been stirred up by Brexit, but if you think this is only about racism I think you don't understand Brexit.

I imagine it is embarrassing to Leave voters who don't want to he associated with Farage and Britain First.
It has been said before, not all Brexit voters want to leave because of immigration or because they are racist ( two different things, worrying about immigration doesn't mean you hate foreigners). But certainly, the racists will have favoured Brexit, and they are the ones who gloat, who party loudly in the street, who set fireworks with no consideration for pet owners.
And don't get me started on that song.
So yes, whilst I do not usually sympathise with leavers , since I think Brexit is a terrible idea based on lies, I can imagine that some are embarrassed to see such tasteless displays of " joy".
But also...tough.

cause you went from talking about loss of culture to the Labour party.

The labour vote was nothing to do with culture despite what people claim. It was Brexit

@mayliss I am explaining why I think people were unhappy with what they saw as the status quo
I actually voted Labour although I knew they would not win.

So people voted for reasons unrelated to the EU and expect things to change?

I think they did, @malylis

Maybe they will now. I doubt it though.

Forty new hospitals anyone?

@malylis Yes they did. And until you understand that you won't understand Brexit.
The take back control slogan really has nothing to do with the EU, but it resonated.

karencantobe
I vote labour and voted to remain.
Voting labour is not really in my interest but I want a fairer society. I own my own home, I have a safe job, i have a secure (for the moment) pension. And I have the all important dual nationality.
I am trying to hear what you are saying but I have decided that I don't need to understand.
I have found myself in the position (at the present - it may change) where I don't actually care what happens to these people (leavers) anymore.
They have brought it on themselves, with their xenophobia, their unwillingness to read beyond a headline, their willingness to vote for a lying, adulterous apology of a man who doesn't know the meaning of the word integrity. They want to take back control? And yet are willing to hand it to Dominic Cummings?
They deserve no sympathy when it all comes crashing down. And mostly because of their triumphalism and their goadiness.
Nope, I'm done with wanting things to be better for people like them.
I give no shits. I am beyond angry.

Then I do understand Brexit.

People voted for their own individual brexit would be, despite it actually having nothing to do with what they actually complain about.

There are going to be lots of dissatisfied people.

@theunknownknown My life is not secure. I am really worried that my family are going to suffer.

Most people don't think it will come crashing down though. So don't need anyone deciding on whether to either extend sympathy or point out the error of their thinking.
As long as there continues to be a 'la la la I'm not listening' and 'how naive and stupid' contingent, the UK will maintain its right of centre.

Which is good news for me.

...and laughable comment 'people like them' @theunknownknown. Showing a rather condescending attitude there.

I don't think it will come crashing down. But my family need the NHS, I need a state pension to retire, we need to be able to continue to work.

And yet all these people so unhappy with the status quo voted for the government that's been in power for ten years, that's overseen the very harsh cuts to deprived areas.

They voted against the EU, which is not responsible for their local problems and actually distributes a lot of money to deprived regions.

It is just not logical and we should probably stop trying to see logic in it. It is emotional.

And an awful lot of that emotion tends toward the nationalist/xenophobic realm. If it were purely economic anxiety, why would they vote in the same party that's been so disastrous for them? It's the combination with xenophobia that directs the blame to the EU.

@dreamingbohemian I think some will have voted for those reasons yes.
A conservative government hasn't caused me any economic anxiety so didn't feature heavily in my EU vote.
Voting is dependent on individual perspective isn't it? Each person has a valid logic and it's not a one size fits all and never has been.
That's why I don't get upset about other people's views.

One of the only advantages to leaving, that I can see, is that governments now will no longer be able to blame things unfairly on the EU. Even BoJo has said that. The UK Gov will have to own their own actions finally (although no doubt for the next 10 year's they will blame everything on the EU being "tricky to leave", rather than what they want being the political equivalent of the moon on a stick!

This: for the next 10 year's they will blame everything on the EU being "tricky to leave", with bells on.

Although I can imagine that the timeframe may expand way beyond 10 years.

Yes. And it started just the day after with the lying headling 'Boris Johnson furious as EU reneges on free trade deal'

The EU have not reneged on anything and it's moronic propoganda and a downright lie.

karencantobe I cannot sneer at English culture because I don’t know exactly what it is.
The only people I’ve heard talking about English culture make racist comments hidden thinly by a veil of patriotism.