to find it impossible to forgive Brexiters

[mrsmootoo]

Can't forgive Brexiters for voting Leave. Find it impossible to move on from this. If there are any positives about leaving EU (?!) they are far outweighed by Remaining. Brexit posts on social media are so aggressive and unpleasant - you lost get over it. Really concerned about my kids' prospects, not being able to travel/work abroad as easily etc.

@MasakaBuzz
exactly
The title of the Post says it all

YANBU. It was a stupid, short-sighted decision. I hope it won’t be a disaster for the UK but worry it will.

If only we'd all been so exercised over the 2011 referendum - you know, the one that actually might have made a difference to how representative our democracy is!

Unfortunately, this is how politics works in this country. We don't get exercised about things until we finally realize that something isn't good for us personally, then we bellyache about it afterward when it's too late. This is how it works at ALL levels of politics. I've seen insane levels of effort go into trying to undo something that could have been stopped/amended if only people had thought about it sooner. Brexit is just one example.

I am resigned to the nasty, insular and socially irresponsible nature of the majority of the population now. I did hope the GE result would show us the country had come to it’s senses. It hasn’t and we will get what we deserve.

I can’t wait to tell them ‘I told you so’ when the shit hits the fan and they all start whinging, because they will.

This.

Tell her you found insect eggs in it and were worried about cockroaches.

I'm grimly resigned.

The recent election as a pp said was another vote for leaving.

I think the idea of democracy is somewhat laughable though, seeing the media manipulation and false promises from politicians during both the referendum and the election.

I and mine will suffer, but I shall have zero sympathy for those who were naive enough to believe that Brexit will make them in any way more prosperous than they are now. Keep waiting for all that investment in steel and UK industry.

Amazing that nationalism was appealed to so highly yet now it seems Boris is more than happy to risk our NS by allowing Huawei to help build our 5G network.

I'm shocked that anyone on here would relish our country going down the pan, just so they can say "told you so". Why would anyone do that, what use is it?
On the flip side, if we all come out smelling of roses will they come back on here and say how sorry they are that they were wrong and others were right? I somehow doubt it.
I think Jaxhog has it right.

@IvyTrails calm down and stop being so hysterical. The UK is a democratic, liberal country and will NEVER be fascist. You’ve put (tick) next to each of your points but not backed it up with any real evidence at all. Come on.

@ShinyS1 it certainly won't be yesterday's news in a year and unlikely in five years.

It's not started yet

The characteristics of fascism seem pretty similar to communism - maybe you describe them as the characteristics of dictatorships (of which there have been as many communist ones as fascist).

Remainers have tried again and again to frustrate the verdict. We have Hilary Benn, Yvette Cooper, .. John Bercow trying their hardest to impede the process. Not that you've not tried. But the election just shows that the majority want to get it over and done with. What more do you want? You're being pathetic. People have spoken, so respect it.

I get it OP. If I hear one more triumphalist telling us to "get over" being stripped of rights and freedoms by a simple majority in a dishonest referendum, I may get stabby. Not to mention all that bollox about "think positive" and just belieeeeve in the inherent greatness of our rapidly fracturing and increasingly friendless kingdom.

Tonight I am going to yet another leaving do for talented people whose jobs have been relocated out of the UK due to Brexit. The brain drain benefits nobody.

Document and keep fighting for it, OP.

2025 the UK will continue to go downhill.

Remember your life in 2009 - what was homelessness like? How many people waiting in A & E trolleys? Foodbanks?

I recommend reading Mindf@ck by Christopher Wylie. See how Leave won trough illegal data harvesting and targeted Facebook ads.

YANBU. I spent ages reading and listening to the Leave arguments but have had to conclude that I, too, have yet to hear a coherent or reasonable argument for leaving.

I just think they're a bunch of twats now and I actively want them to lose their jobs/their fishing businesses to struggle etc.

Which I'm not proud of, but there it is.

I feel the same OP. I accept that Brexit is happening, but I’m worried about my child’s future and I don’t think I’ll ever forgive Leavers for jeopardising it. A softer Brexit wouldn’t have been great, but it would have been OK.

I’m just going to focus on my family, save money for our future and make sure DD gets a good education, including learning a second language to a high level. As much as I’d love to emigrate, we can’t leave in the near future for family reasons.

This whole debacle has taught me that the idea of a shared British identity with shared values is an illusion. I used to “feel British”, but not any more.

You can't forgive 17.4 million people? Hilarious Nicky

You can't emphasise with 16.2 million people? How pathetic.

Many a rugby match I've gone to where the win is important. Do those who win celebrate, of course! Is there empathy for the loser? Yes, especially if it involves a cup.

You are not being unreasonable OP and I know that one day the EU will welcome us back, warmly, with open arms.

I have both British and EU citizenship.

I don't think you have to forgive people. The question is whether you are going to hold onto the anger which is ultimately destructive for you.

I've chosen to let the anger go and bloody hell I've been angry. I have family who voted leave - I was so irritated they were unable to articulate why they voted in that way. Now several of them are wishing they hadn't, but you know what? They have to live with / own how they voted.

Hopefully things will be okay politically and economically but if they are not, I can sleep at night knowing the fuck up wasn't mine. If the UK breaks up as a result of this, I know my vote did not contribute to that. If my kids are disappointed by the reduction in opportunities available to them for where they can live and study, I can look them in the eye and tell them I did not vote for that.

What is wankery and tedious is the 'grow up, get over it snowflake' comments - it is a real sign of the times in terms of of people communicate with one another.

I know loads of people who voted Leave, they are decent family people, kind, would do anything to help you out and good company, there are remainers i know who are nasty & small minded.

I don't know anyone who gave a fig about the EU in 2010, it was a non issue, the media and farage stirred the pot after Cameron stupidly threw them a bone, i won't judge them over a vote tbh most regret their decision anyway and are rather worried about the future.

BUT i believe it is the Govt's job to make decisions for the good of the country NOT pander to a small party called UKIP and a few ERG Tory MPs....Cameron et al failed miserably, i won't forgive that man or his party, ever.

The fact is we are leaving the EU, a massive mistake, it could ultimately lead to a return to factionalism and even violence once again in Europe.
A country like the UK should be at the heart of Europe, driving it forward and reforming as we face many global challenges, instead we will have little if any voice and will be followers.

I hope Johnson will exceed my expectations and forge a great partnership with the EU, its our continent and we should be IN it.

This time next year it will be yesterday's news. Certainly will be in 5 years.

It will certainly not. The ramifications will be felt for some time. Neither will all of those ramifications be anticipated either. I suspect they'll be political ramifications with loyalties redrawn, and possible effects on how votes are taken in major cooperative entities like the UN for one.

I don't hate them. Everyone voted for what they thought the best option was.

Hate the people that lied on both sides, hate the people who didn't think through the referendum, hate the people who couldn't be arsed to vote.

All this mess and expense (now more ££££ than we pay in) because one man (buffoon) wanted to be pm.

Oh well, I’m also resigned to it. My Facebook feed was full of noisy brexiteers in 2016. Now it’s gone very, very quiet. I think a lot of leavers have changed their minds but are too embarrassed to say it.

While difficult, I'm not sure how not moving forward will help anything.

Personally, as previously mentioned, I have a bit more issue with the political fuckery than voters. There is just too many variables to hate millions of people, but politicians making their name and money off of the chaos piss me of. What pisses me off more was Remain's lack of effort pre-referendum which was ridiculous. Yeah, Remain was the status quo, but incumbents are still meant to discuss how they would improve things and I didn't see any of that.

Remain politicians treated the EU as much as a monolith as Leave did, even when they pointed out the many many benefits, no one was discussing the problems and how the UK might be able to work to better them. I don't think Cameron or his like wanted to improve things with the EU or answer people's concerns, they liked having the EU as an excuse. They thought they could have their referendum cake and eat being able to continue to blame the EU later too. It bit the UK in the ass. Those remainers I find are far more of an issue than my local UKIP/Brexit Party councillors and supporters who feel a drop in the ocean of issues to me in comparison