to find it impossible to forgive Brexiters

[mrsmootoo]

Can't forgive Brexiters for voting Leave. Find it impossible to move on from this. If there are any positives about leaving EU (?!) they are far outweighed by Remaining. Brexit posts on social media are so aggressive and unpleasant - you lost get over it. Really concerned about my kids' prospects, not being able to travel/work abroad as easily etc.

LaurieMarlow

She is literally quoting facts, uncovered in the polling data.

Actually she isn't, she is quoting conclusions from statistical data retrieved from polling areas which supports a hypothesis.

Note the term "associated"

Dance Therapy is a legitimate course you can gain a qualification in from university, is it not?

Yes, one of many. Well done.

I’d hazard Dance therapy accounts for a very small proportion of the courses done by graduates, which also include law, medicine, philosophy, astrophysics, engineering, etc, etc.

And all degrees require a certain amount of educational attainment. There is wide variation, sure. But I’m not sure how ‘a small number of graduates do dance therapy’ has much relevance to the bigger point that ‘the more educated over index on voting remain’.

@hamstersarse well said.

@boney

But that is what staunch remainers think! They truly think they have superior intelligence and somehow quoting these ‘facts’ is a good way to demonstrate it

I think it shows them to believe they are superior beings

The irony of their accusations of racism / bigotry is beautiful

Middle class leavers do love their personal pronouns - ”my shepherdess” tee hee.

That's democracy for you.

Your fellow voters may not be able to to spell. They may not have degrees from red brick uni's.

Your fellow citizens will have different life experiences.

They may not be middle class or rich, or have access to good schools. This is why democracy and transparency in politics is crucial. The vote. The right for everyone over a certain age to vote is vital. It's the greatest leveller in society we have.
People have died to get it, fight to achieve this, die to preserve it.

I'm sorry that some posters on here want to make something of education levels and votes. It makes me feel even more relieved that we are leaving the eu and that this time. boris won the election.

You are actually comfortable saying you are better and more valid than people who have lower education levels, poorer health and less life satisfaction.

No one is saying that. Sweet Jesus.

Okay, here’s how exit polling works.

A specific sample of people will be asked how they voted. They’ll then be asked other factual questions about other things like income level and educational achievements. Data scientists are the able to draw conclusions from the data that show trends in the voting.

Exit polling historically has a much lower margin of error than other sampling approaches (apart from census style data gathering).

@LaurieMarlow
Yes, one of many. Well done.
I’d hazard Dance therapy accounts for a very small proportion of the courses done by graduates, which also include law, medicine, philosophy, astrophysics, engineering, etc, etc.
And all degrees require a certain amount of educational attainment. There is wide variation, sure. But I’m not sure how ‘a small number of graduates do dance therapy’ has much relevance to the bigger point that ‘the more educated over index on voting remain’.

Well done...? For what? Dance Therapy is a course. It counts as higher education. The argument (which you yourself put forward) is that people who are “educated” were more likely to vote remain. There’s nothing wrong with going to university. There is nothing wrong in studying a course like Dance Therapy. But when you proclaim that remainers are educated and leavers aren’t, I think it needs pointed out. I personally, in a time of crisis, would rather have a police person who happened to vote leave and didn’t go to uni than a dance therapist who voted remain and did.

LaurieMarlow

They didn't use exit polling, they used a household survey.

Its in the abstract.

In a time of crisis no one is going to ask the police officer on the case how they voted in the referendum and s/he is hardly likely to be making conversation about it.

I think it needs pointed out

What, that a teeny proportion of graduates graduated in a course that you (without any expertise) deem to be not worthy of degree status? Ok.

Also plenty of police will have degrees.

And I’m sure the data accounts for all kinds and levels of qualification.

why didn't he die in that helicopter crash he was in - what kind of person thinks that saying this is ok?

Middle class leavers do love their personal pronouns - ”my shepherdess” tee hee. I'm a remainer. She's a shepherd then and has a cattle scanning business. You have no idea, HTH

They didn't use exit polling, they used a household survey.

Good Analysis on the reliability of the data here. Scroll to the end. Strong consistency in the findings from the major pollsters.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.theweek.co.uk/89378/fact-check-did-uk-s-better-educated-vote-remain%3famp

No one is saying that. Sweet Jesus.

So what exactly is your point?

You are saying more educated people voted remain - so what? What are you saying this means?

Personal pronouns to describe other people create the impression of someone trying to enhance their own status. In conversations with strangers they make you sound awful. If you didn’t realise that perhaps I’ve done you a favour!

What are you saying this means?

I’m not saying anything. It’s a clear trend in the data, that’s all.

She has to be saying that only the uneducated voted leave, in which case we win everytime, because Boris got such a massive result people are losing their intelligence.. do you think something is being put in the wine?

She has to be saying that only the uneducated voted leave, in which case we win everytime, because Boris got such a massive result people are losing their intelligence.. do you think something is being put in the wine?

I think you’re on the wine.

Say what now?

*The arrogance is astounding.

You are actually comfortable saying you are better and more valid than people who have lower education levels, poorer health and less life satisfaction.

I’m amazed you would be so blatant but I do wonder how this blind spot is still so blinded

FYI- the blind spot being that you call leave voters bigots*

Remainers do need to look at themselves and how they view leavers. It’s not helpful to maintain this attitude. And I say this as someone who voted remain.

Looking at glass of wine. Yes red,.
Oh Boris you wonderful brute.

I’m not saying anything. It’s a clear trend in the data, that’s all

You know it and everyone here knows it.

We know exactly what you are saying.

The sad thing is that you genuinely believe it is relevant. I would hazard a guess you have had private discussions which involves "not giving the vote to the British people ever again".

And are unable to see the nightmare within that statement

Until the voting system is changed from FPTP things will remain very difficult.
Can anyone explain to me why the previous referendum on this failed (not from UK)

FPTP works as you vote and know whom your getting.
If your splitting the vote equally how do you know who represents you?