To think that a lot of genuinely beautiful people ruin themselves with plastic surgery etc?

[BeTheRabbit]

As a self confessed utterly ugly bug I just can't understand it... There are truly beautiful women out there who do it to themselves time and time again and end up almost caricatures of themselves.

Just a thought after seeing the latest pics of Catherine Zeta Jones who was incredibly gorgeous. Not a caricature yet, but perhaps in danger of going there.

I bet the presssure to look a certain way when in the public eye must be enormous. But I find the surgery look almost grotesque... something a bit Hunger Games about it. And yes to whoever said about the cost, the upkeep must be ridiculously expensive.

I think sharon osbourne is my age
She looks like my baby sister
Amazing.

I couldn’t put myself through the pain of anything like that.
I’m decluttering at the moment and came across a diary from 2009 when I’d had to have abdominal surgery.
Every day I’d written about the awful pain I was in.
I asked the hospital if I could stay an extra day
When I did get home my dd had to help me into bed
One night my son, heard me crying about the pain I was in
I’d actually got an infection on the wound.

No way would I dare have a face lift..I’ don’t think I’d garner much sympathy if it went wrong

Gosh, I’m shocked at Charlotte Crosby..she’s only young as well

Can people please post a picture of whatever they’re talking about re- CZJ because as far as I can see she looks amazing! The woman is 50 fgs and she’s far more beautiful and striking than 95% of women in their 20s.

If she’s had a bit too much Botox for an event, that doesn’t matter. It will wear off in a month or two.

She looks amazing and always did. So does Amanda Holden - another MN fave, I know. So does Sharon Osbourne - amazing surgeon.

The only one I genuinely didn’t recognise was Cheryl Cole because her eyes have changed and her expression is different. She doesn’t exactly look bad, just like a younger version of Nigella Lawson, so that I did find unnerving tbh.

Rene Zellweger looks like she’s halved her body weight since Bridget Jones and I wouldn’t have recognised her either. Everything is different about her expressions. Not sure what’s happened there.

But let’s face it, despite all the slagging off, the average 40 / 50 something traipsing round Tesco or whatever would trade their look in an instant with CZJ, however much people like to slag her off

Amanda Holden looks like a completely different person now. It's very weird. She had quite distinctive features before and they've been filled out (in?) by heavy-handed cosmetic work.

Glenda Jackson was one the One Show a few weeks ago, looking every minute of her age apart from dyed hair. She's got a fascinating face and she looks as if she could tell you some fantastic stories that would make your hair curl.

Definitely don't agree that plastic surgery never looks good - look up Blake Lively's nose job(s). But the Instagram face thing is spooky. There's a specific look that a lot of young women aspire to, it's really Kardashian led - full lips, non-hooded eyes, prominent cheekbones, massive lashes, tiny nose. Just like a Bratz doll.

I guarantee there are a few people in your office who have had something, guarantee.

You clearly haven't met my team.
Oh, how they would laugh at that ridiculous projection

Ha ha or my tram either. They would piss themselves laughing.

Sigh. Team not tram.

Christie Brinkley looks 30 years younger than her age imo.

I think plastic surgery makes a lot of people lose the animation in their face which made them attractive in the first place.

One of my favourite Asian singers is starting to look like an alien with the amount of fillers he uses. It makes me feel sad when I see it, like they're desperately chasing youth and they just look like themselves, but with mumps.

But then stars - especially female ones - who age naturally get eviscerated for it. The DM will run an article all about how they saw an actress who was popular in the 70's and OMG she doesn't look like that anymore!! God forbid a pensioner look like a pensioner if they once appeared on a television programme.

My theory is that once you start having cosmetic procedures, you stop looking at your face as a whole and zero in on the component parts, becoming obsessed with your crows feet for instance or the tip of your chin.

In reality, when people look at you, they see you as a whole not as the sum of your parts. I can well imagine that if you paid a few grand for cheek implants, that’s what you’d notice first about your own face. Or that botox on the number 11s makes you feel your forehead doesn’t match so you have to get that done too.

You look at poor Courtney Cox with dismay and wonder does she really think she looks better than she would have if she’d aged naturally? She probably looks in the mirror and thinks:

Lines gone: check
Jowls gone: check
Full lips: check
Eyes (whatever the fuck she’s done): check.

So she thinks it’s all good. When we look at her and think “where did you go”?

You look at poor Courtney Cox with dismay and wonder does she really think she looks better than she would have if she’d aged naturally?

I thought she got all her fillers dissolved?

Actually though I watched a video on YT from a doctor who does those treatments and he said some of it never dissolves. Not only that but he said fillers can actually eat into bone. He's seen it during operations.

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^ I had to look long and hard at that image. I was convinced that it was a puppet, of the Spitting Image caricature type. Are you saying that it's actually a person and they are not wearing a mask? I do find it hard to believe that the photos are real and not photoshopped or have cartoon filters applied.

I agree to a certain extent. Plastic surgery has its perks. I had an otoplasty years ago and it was the best thing I did. Otherwise I wouldn't do anything (or probably just saying it because I'm not even 30, who knows). Everything with measure

But let’s face it, despite all the slagging off, the average 40 / 50 something traipsing round Tesco or whatever would trade their look in an instant with CZJ, however much people like to slag her off grin

Agree. I’d like to see what the people making nasty rude comments look like. I bet they don’t look like supermodels.

Well, it's that or wrinkles and jowls. They'll get ripped to pieces either way

Exactly. If they hadn’t had everything yanked up and smoother out the papers would be screaming “CZJ has let herself go!”. Not only that, their jobs depend on looking young because Hollywood is mysogynistic as hell. When there are articles in magazines about George clooneys crows feet then maybe, just maybe women will feel able to relax and age without intervention. But until that happens perhaps the nastiness could be kept to a minimum.

I think that fillers and surgery can distort the proportions of the face somehow so that, as a whole, it looks “off”. An example would be Simon Cowell. I’m not sure what he’s had done but the overall effect is just very unnatural.

I think the older celebrities trying to maintain their youth is less disturbing and understandable but plenty take it too far.

I find the younger girls all wanted to change their faces so they all have the same face more concerning. Take lip fillers, so many of them look ridiculous.

What people fail to remember though is that the filtered insta snap after all the work isn't reality. Take Kylie Jenner who looks completely different in the TV show vs instagram or Michelle Keegan whose lips were distracting in Our Girl. Fillers look very different when someone is animated as opposed to a still photo.

The worst are the younger women who go for the fillers to achieve the "sex doll" look. The girls from Little Mix were all gorgeous and natural when they first became famous, they' now look really odd with weird lips. Lauren whatsit from Towie is the same.

I can kind of understand it in older women who want to hang on to what they once had, but in women in their 20s or 30s it's crazy.

I was watching His Dark Materials last night and I was surprised to see Anne Marie Duff cast in an older woman role (in my head she’s still the age she was in Shameless). She’s 49, looks it, and I think is beautiful, with a face full of character and even - shock horror - a few wrinkles. When she smiles it lights up the screen.

Yanbu! There's a mum at school who has had A. Lot. Done. Her poor face is a puffy bulbous mess. She's just had a baby but works as an estate agent so I guess there's pressure to be overly made up but honestly she's terrifying now. You can just see how pretty she would have been before. It's a bloody shame. For the record, I'm ugly as sin and fat to boot but I'm not jealous of her looks.

Megan Fox used to look amazing