Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

999 replies

Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
Whiskeychaser · 19/01/2020 22:32

I'm also a people pleaser and find it much easier to be firm/ state my needs via texts.
I don't particularly like talking on the phone, fine for social calls, but not awkward conversations.

OP posts:
karalou2 · 19/01/2020 22:46

Oh dear. I so connect with you. I spent years driving my own 4 kids places, plus their friends and ended up like you, totally frazzled. Because I'm a calm on the outside person, if I dared suggest I needed a break or heaven forbid, needed a favour, I suddenly became the most unreliable, selfish person in the world.
This has continued through my life. A few years ago I had a stroke. The shock lasted a couple of weeks but the day I came home from hospital, a neighbour rang to see if I was going shopping as she needed a few things. It doesn't even surprise me any more but I brought it on myself for being unable to say NO.
You say your dd can be moody so you should start there. Tell her you're not prepared to put your health and sanity at risk any more, so unless lifts for her friend are done your way, then you won't be taking her any more either.
Please don't be like me. Pull your life back and hang onto it. As for losing this 'friend', you'll find yourself with time to make others who appreciate you. Good luck - be strong and DO IT....

RandomMess · 19/01/2020 22:54

I have to rely on others once per week to help out with a lift for one of my DC. I hate it, absolutely detest it. Having to essentially ask other people to go out their way.

I purposely offer to help out others but am careful that it will not inconvenience me for all the reasons the op has said. Whether you work or not you can get stressed, you can get burn out and a half an hour journey taking 50 minutes EVERY week at some points would have sent me over the edge.

billy1966 · 19/01/2020 22:56

2 years, week in, week out!

Honestly, stories like the OP's are why some people do not get involved with other people.

The absolute entitlement of the other woman!

Well done OPP, for pulling back.
💐

Whiskeychaser · 19/01/2020 23:40

@karalou2, it's my dd's friend that can be moody, not my dd.
My dd is appreciative of the fact that I facilitate her club activities by driving her there and back, especially as she knows how stiff and sore I get, which is even worse in the cold winter months.

OP posts:
frazzledasarock · 20/01/2020 00:00

We live in the UK, it rains all the time. Which is why we have excellent weather wear. They can invest in coats and boots and umbrellas. most people in the UK go out and about their daily lives even in the rain and many live to tell the tale.

Or friend can get taxi to OP.

Or they can stop going to the club.

It’s not OP’s responsibility.

karalou2 · 20/01/2020 00:18

Oh no! I'm so sorry I misunderstood that! It's the initial's that do it - my brain finds it hard to compute. I do try to be careful but still make mistakes. You seem to be the type of Mum who'd bring her children up to be as giving as you but I went along the line that maybe your daughter was as fed up as you, making her moody in turn. I truly apologise for making such a terrible mistake. I hope you managed to read the rest of my post because I really am 100% with you on this. I'll delete that part of my text..

GiftedFish · 20/01/2020 00:50

What a pair of cheeky wankers.
A few people have suggested texts which I agree with. Perhaps saying you also need some time, that your rushing tea etc. You're happy to take the DD to club bit would like some effort on their part. After all you aren't a free taxi services!

karalou2 · 20/01/2020 00:56

I've emailed mumsnet to find out how to amend or delete my reply as I can't see how to do it! I will do it though and apologise. I should have checked more carefully...

Whiskeychaser · 20/01/2020 01:26

@karalou2, it's fine, there's really no need to apologise or delete your post. We all make mistakes, so don't worry, I realise my posts are pretty long and so easily confusing. Smile

OP posts:
karalou2 · 20/01/2020 01:38

Thank you. That's really kind. I felt absolutely awful! I tend to do really long posts too but I'll be much more careful in future! Good luck with your dilemma!

TheMaddHugger · 20/01/2020 03:14

@karalou2 (((Hugs)) it's ok. As OP said it happens. not that big oh deal🌺

Angelil · 20/01/2020 06:01

Are there no public transportation options for the girls to either go to the club together or for this girl to come over beforehand?
Plus, how imperative is it that you get to the club on time? Is it you getting stressed out about potential lateness or the girls?

BoomBoomsCousin · 20/01/2020 07:11

Are there no public transportation options ... for this girl to come over beforehand?.

OP has said it’s a seven minute walk via the shortcut. There really aren’t likely to be public transport options that would be more convenient than just walking. Let’s remember that the OP isn’t suggesting very much at all from this girl and her mom in order for them to get a free lift.

SydneyMamma · 20/01/2020 07:37

The mother sounds like hard work. Texting - and often - to check where you are when you're driving is truly a PITA. I hate it when people do that. It is, as you say, stressful.

I would keep repeating that it doesn't work for you anymore to pick the friend up as you're driving in the opposite direction to collect her and you don't have enough time on top of everything else you need to do. It also means being stressed and getting to the club late. That the only way it can work going forward is for them to make their way to you. Be honest and be firm. And repeat.

I might offer to pick up on the occasions the weather is really awful though.

Good luck; these situations are never easy. Smile

Frenchw1fe · 20/01/2020 08:00

@NicEv probably.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 20/01/2020 09:40

She’s not a nice friend so I wouldn’t worry about losing her. It’s a one sided friendship where you are doing all the work! You owe this woman and her DD nothing?! It’s on your terms or nothing jeeezz I cannot stand the entitled of today - this is why I don’t do people!!

Delatron · 20/01/2020 11:16

Just how lazy are they? 7 minute walk versus paying £££ for a taxi.

Chocmallows · 20/01/2020 15:01

OP, ignore anyone who tells you that this CF and her DD are your responsibility.

If those posters want to take on a CF they can look around and find one themselves lots about, or perhaps PM you to see if your CF is looking for a new free ride.

Chocmallows · 20/01/2020 15:02

PS. That was a joke, so many CFs about I am sure they can find one local to them. You in the meantime can ditch your CF.

Whiskeychaser · 20/01/2020 16:22

I've been thinking about this today and mentioned the situation to someone I know, and they actually made a good point that I hadn't thought of, but now I have it's annoyed me a little.

She said that once she'd actually decided to get a cab, why didn't she text you and offer to take your dd as well to give you a break. You could've then just done the pick up.

Although it wouldn't have saved me any mileage as I stay there, so it's one return trip regardless, it would've meant I had an extra 90+minutes at home, which would've really helped me out.

AIBU to be a little annoyed about this?

I get she was probably making a point in getting a cab, which wouldn't have worked so well/had the same impact, if she'd offered to take my dd as well.

OP posts:
2020BetterBeBetter · 20/01/2020 16:29

If she starts getting cabs for her daughter on a regular basis, ask her to get the driver to pick up your daughter as well.

Blackbear19 · 20/01/2020 16:39

The reason she never offered is because a) she was in a huff and b) she didn't actually think you'd let her.

cstaff · 20/01/2020 16:42

The reason she didn't offer a lift in the cab was because she was in a huff and just making a point and also hoping that you would back down which thankfully you didn't, so that was never going to happen.

Whiskeychaser · 20/01/2020 16:50

cstaff , blackbear19, yeah, I know you're right, but I'm still a bit peeved about it.

She wasn't trying to make my life easier, she was in a strop and cutting off her nose to spite her face.

OP posts: