Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

999 replies

Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
ThePawtriarchy · 18/01/2020 00:57

Does she know that you go the other way on the way to her?

JulietTango · 18/01/2020 02:34

Given that she's had a lift for the last two years I would have thought so

BoomBoomsCousin · 18/01/2020 04:15

OP in your Fri 17-Jan-20 23:50:07 message you seem to mention the daughter’s name. If it’s her real name, you might want to report the message and ask MN to edit it out.

Beautiful3 · 18/01/2020 05:08

Good up date op!

Durgasarrow · 18/01/2020 06:02

It's amazing that she wanted to look so dignified and independent, but still trotted behind you waiting for a ride. Would she be what Reddit calls a "choosing beggar"?

Atilathehunter · 18/01/2020 08:16

Not placemarking for next week, no.

Incidentally, I have a feeling that CF will expect this weeks assertiveness to be a one off and will probably text something like “what time are you picking [redacted]?” at some point next Friday.

TigerJoy · 18/01/2020 08:40

Well done! Can I suggest that next week you make plans after the club to meet your DH which means you will not be going straight home? And are therefore unavailable to give anyone a lift?

Kanga83 · 18/01/2020 08:57

Are there any nice restaurants near the club your daughter would like to try after the club for some mum and daughter time? You know, so the friend has to make her own way home and not just assume every week she gets a lift home let alone on the way there? Or does this club run on other days?

TheMaddHugger · 18/01/2020 09:02

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily 😀Let me know if you make it what you think about it. I can no longer have chili.

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 18/01/2020 09:18

What time does your DP get home? Any chance he could take your DD for a few weeks, you know just to see what she does then. Or pop up towards the end ready to go out for dinner. I wonder if she'd be so keen to get into your car for a lift home if he was driving.

Ihavenoidewhatsgoingon · 18/01/2020 09:29

Why is it that people with no cars always think a car (and your time driving them to the door and back even if it’s miles out of your way) is free? And then when you get in a taxi with them expect you to half the cost?

So glad you stuck up for yourself. What are the odds on them being outside your door at 6 next Friday

fedup21 · 18/01/2020 09:36

I almost chickened out and went back to my car before she saw me as she had a face like thunder

What a bloody cheek! I think I’d have just ignored her to see what she did! How would she have expected to get home!!

Dangerfloof · 18/01/2020 09:38

Why is it that people with no cars always think a car (and your time driving them to the door and back even if it’s miles out of your way) is free*
See this isnt always true. I dont currently have a car cos I walk everywhere (various reasons, cost, fitness, time on my hands blah blah)
Yet my lovely DP who has a car, if it's ever off road for any reason, will call his mates/workmates/family to give him a lift to wherever. I find this more cheeky and I tell him to get a bus or taxi or cycle. But he insists no one minds, and they dont seem to. But I would go well out of my way to not ever ask for a lift, and it's the first thing he thinks of.
Just different people.

RandomMess · 18/01/2020 09:38

Ironically she could have just paid for the can to yours instead of all the way to club 😂

nowayhose · 18/01/2020 09:57

Why can't the other girl come to yours straight from school ? I'd personally find it so much easier to accommodate another mouth to feed every friday and then you only need to drop her after club.

I can see both sides of the problem, and to me this seems to be the easiest solution.

BunnytheBlueWhale · 18/01/2020 10:03

Why can't the other girl come to yours straight from school ?

OP has answered this

eddielizzard · 18/01/2020 10:03

She is no friend she's a CF!!! Who the hell doesn't offer to contribute or at least buy your coffee after you've driven them?!? The fact she's happy for you to take it in turns means she really doesn't think your car costs anything to run or that your time is as valuable as hers. I get that she's a single mum and finding life tough. That doesn't give her carte blanche to take advantage of you though.

Well done for sticking to your guns. Keep them loaded! [flowers[

Vulpine · 18/01/2020 10:05

What ever a taxi costs its alot less than the cost of owning and running a car

fedup21 · 18/01/2020 10:11

I really wouldn’t want to be friends with someone like her any more.

BlackCatSleeping · 18/01/2020 10:14

I don’t think it’s a good idea for the OP to start feeding her. It’s a 10-minute walk. It’s nothing. She did it fine in the summer. The OP has done enough without having to feed her as well.

Drum2018 · 18/01/2020 10:22

@RandomMess she was probably so incensed at being told op wasn't picking her up that she didn't even think about that Grin How stupid of her to pay to get to the club and not op's house. I gather she thought op would back down though. Fair play to you @Whiskeychaser. You've knocked on CF on the head! Hope the other lift giving thread ends in a positive manner for that op too.

Spelunking · 18/01/2020 10:49

It wouldn’t surprise me if she and her daughter get a taxi for a few weeks and then she’ll bring up about how much it is costing and would it be possible to go back to the original arrangement of the op picking her daughter up on the way or she won’t be able to go any longer. 10 minutes is not a long walk and it isn’t at a late time. I’m a non driver too that also prefers to make her own way to places. If you are accepting a lift from somebody you should be where they want you to be and slightly early to make sure you aren’t inconveniencing the driver.

tiredvommachine · 18/01/2020 11:08

The nights are only going to get shorter now so the argument about it being too dark for her daughter to walk will become moot. Well done OP, glad you stood your ground Flowers

BlouseAndSkirt · 18/01/2020 11:30

Great update, OP!

Just one thought: as you pass her house in the way home, does she know / realise that you don’t go that way on the way out? Does she know it is a detour?

Anyway, what a daft bat. If she was getting a taxi all the way she could have saved money with a taxi just to yours. Hmm

Bloody cheeky that she doesn’t buy your coffee, too, given that I assume she doesn’t contribute to petrol?

billy1966 · 18/01/2020 11:38

OP, well done for standing your ground.
The fact you share coffee buying is extraordinary.
She really is a CF.

I have found in life that people like this NEVER have any difficulty saying No themselves and not being imposed upon.

They are not nice people. Her fury at you daring to say something doesn't suit you any longer, tells me all I need to know.

She's not your friend, you are of use to her.
I bet if this arrangement stopped, you wouldn't see her for dust.