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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
Fivetillmidnight · 17/01/2020 17:19

God I get so fucked off with 'doesn't drive' ... unless there is a medical reason not to, and it's required to get kids from a to b then she needs to learn... no excuse !!

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 17:30

Quick update, then I won't have time to update again until I get back home after club around 8.30pm.

I haven't heard anything today, and my dd hasn't mentioned it (I've told her what I'm doing and why), and neither has her friend, so we'll see come 6pm.

BlouseAndSkirt we're not late for club 4 out every 6 times, I'm late picking my dd's friends 4/6 times. This varies between 1 minute and 10 minutes late picking her up (usually just 3 or 4 though).

I just struggle to get everything I need done in the short time I have at home, so the extra 15 minutes I'd gain by her walking to me would really help me out.

We're very rarely late for club, but it's stressful nevertheless.

OP posts:
YasssKween · 17/01/2020 17:35

Fine then OP I'll have one glass at 6 then wait until 8.30 for the other one Wink

BumbleBeee69 · 17/01/2020 17:55

Good luck OP Flowers

FaithInfinity · 17/01/2020 17:56

Just seen this thread and read through. Well done for being assertive! Hope tonight has been more relaxed for you and it all goes off okay for you.

willowmelangell · 17/01/2020 18:02

Good luck OP!

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 17/01/2020 18:06

Continues eating peanuts and opens bottle of wine 🍷

YasssKween · 17/01/2020 18:16

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily

Continues eating peanuts and opens bottle of wine

This is a bloody lovely red isn't it? GrinWine

JayAlfredPrufrock · 17/01/2020 18:17

I’ve just cracked open a nice South African red.

sauvignonblancplz · 17/01/2020 18:22

Good luck , admiring you sticking to your guns.

AHobbyaweek · 17/01/2020 18:22

On holiday and got them to crack me open a lovely Rose.

Whynosnowyet · 17/01/2020 18:25

Just me with popcorn then?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 17/01/2020 18:25

This is a bloody lovely red isn't it?

I’m on the Fat Bastard Pinot Noir. An reasonably priced, nice easy drinking wine.

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 18:28

Very quick update.

Just arrived at club and about to go in for a coffee (always stay as it's pointless driving home just to go back out again 30 mins later). I left dead on 6pm with no sign of dd's friend or her mum.

No missed texts/calls either, so I'm assuming she got a taxi or isn't here. Will find out when I go inside, I guess.

As we parked up, dd got a text from this friend saying 'where are we meeting?',and I'm not sure what that means.

I could do with a stiff drink, lol, but off I go! Thanks for all the support.

OP posts:
chocolateandpinkgin · 17/01/2020 18:30

@NoProblem123 wow that's awful! It's beyond belief the cheeky fuckery from some people. Can't believe she had you doing the school runs as well!

JayAlfredPrufrock · 17/01/2020 18:33

Maybe she doesn’t like to go in alone.

Dolorabelle · 17/01/2020 18:37

I've been following this - congrats OP for sticking to your guns Flowers

I don't drive, and I'd never dream of treating a friend like you've been treated by this other person. A 15 minute walk to your house is nothing - if the other mother is worried about safety, she could walk with her DD.

But one thign struck me - does this other mother actually realise that you are going 15 minutes drive out of your way, in the opposite direction from the club? She may just be not very bright, or hard of thinking, and not worked this out.

I'm trying to be charitable here ...

FuckingHateRats · 17/01/2020 18:40

Guaranteed the kid has given up the club by March.

Well done OP!! Stand that ground.

messolini9 · 17/01/2020 18:46

As we parked up, dd got a text from this friend saying 'where are we meeting?',and I'm not sure what that means.

I think it means that friend's mother has (deliberately?) fucked up comms with her daughter, so that OP can be positioned as squarely to blame for any fallout between the girls.
If I'm right, 'Friend' is using her own child as a pawn in a game of Pass-Agg CF'ery.

And I am right. There is absolutely no way that OP's clear text could have been misinterpreted. If all of us randoms here know that it's 6pm on the dot at OP's gaff, how the fuck can 'friend' & her daughter have any trouble working it out?

CottonSock · 17/01/2020 18:54

I stood my ground on this giving people (3 different ones over the years) lifts to work. Unless they also gave me lifts to door, it was from my house, take it or leave it. Stay strong op

BallstoFLeBay · 17/01/2020 18:55

I think we need a diagram of the route 🤣

mbosnz · 17/01/2020 18:57

Oh boy. Opening up a nicely chilled Marlborough Sav blanc.

Anyone for cashews?

Blackbear19 · 17/01/2020 18:58

DD should reply 'I'll just get you inside, when your taxi gets here'

hopeishere · 17/01/2020 19:10

Her mum is awful if she's not sorted this.

I also get v v stressed and anxious about being on time / being late so I emphasise!

Asgoodasarest · 17/01/2020 19:14

Totally off topic but thank you for the bookmark heads up everyone. I totally never noticed it. My mumsnet browsing experience is infinitely better already 😂
Good luck OP x