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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
YasssKween · 17/01/2020 19:19

@mbosnz

Anyone for cashews?

Bung us a couple please mate, cheers.

Honey roasted obviously? Otherwise you're gonna need to nip to the shop.

flouncyfanny · 17/01/2020 19:28

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Stressedout10 · 17/01/2020 19:29

🍿anyone

WillLokireturn · 17/01/2020 19:31

@Whiskychaser
Oooooo the 5:2 odds are now stopping to 3:2!!

I hope you just went in. You won't want DD standing out in the cold waiting 5-15 mins for Friends DD or the hassle of it. If she makes her own way there, she can meet DD inside in the warm like every other child who attends

I wonder how the drop off home will go. It's so sad that Friend is continuing to put you in this position without any signs of appreciation
Of such a favour you have been doing.

I'd be listening out for any sign of ungratefulness and whether Friend DD is nice or says thanks for the lift home. Any indications of mean behaviour towards DD and that'd be the last lift I'd want to do. It takes quite something to get a kind hearted naturally helpful person to that point yourself.

I totally understand how it creeps up on you before you realise that all the stress is on your shoulders and it's not working anymore!! It took a real CF Dad and months before I realised I'd gotten into a similar situation a few years back.

I used to take 2 other girls to Youth Club with my middle DD. I stopped picking up one girl in the end after 7 months of doing both drop off and pick up as she kept us regularly 10 mins, so everyone was late, putting her make up on looking out of window (we could see her!!) despite seeing us pull up and our arriving same time each week.

My DD used to text her before we left (12 mins away) and whilst we were sat cold in the car DD used to keep ringing and texting her telling her we were here and to "come out - we can see you look beautiful already, we're late!"

We had used to lift share 3 ways with me always doing the 8Pm take them all there, Her dad had lost his job and they had one car but he had a wife and toddler at home but said he couldn't do either drop off or pick up anymore. I understood at first (their money was tight, they had a toddler to do bath times with until I realised his wife was in too!!) but, I also had 3 children (lone parent) limited money and had to take my youngest (8) at the time to drop off and 10pm pick up with us! We didn't get home till 10:40pm each week, due to the long round trip I had to do although club was only 15 mins from me.

She lived opposite direction to Youth club and the other girl. And she kept everyone waiting at pick up too and few times made me return to the club as she had forgotten something (it was already closed all 3 times but she was almost hysterical in the car wanting me to go back).

One drop-off night her dad & stepmum didn't even answer door to her as she'd forgotten her keys so we sat outside for nearly 20 minutes her and me ringing hims phone with his daughter banging on door. (He and his wife said they were asleep and didn't hear door!! They did look sleepy in pjs, as I was at door too by then thoroughly tired and just wanting to see her safely in - she'd run back out to my car as I was turning round- to get home and my own DDs in bed)

Not long after, I chatted with my DDs about how fed up we all were and younger DD about how cold & dark out and tiring it - this was January, I stopped taking my DD each week and did fortnightly. Funnily he enough he immediately found other lifts and that he could actually take his daughter sometimes!! He did take mine a few times but he got in with new lift sharers and there became no room for my DD. We didn't mind as it was only a quick nip out for us after then!!

YasssKween · 17/01/2020 19:33

@flouncyfanny

passes bowl of pom-bears around thread

I think I love you. They've recently come back into my life and I forgot how good they are.

I may just have opened a second bag of Salt N Shakes. I regret nothing.

messolini9 · 17/01/2020 19:34

Wine anyone for a top-up?

Cheers @flouncyfanny.
If I'm not lightly smashed in time for the 8.30pm update*, I'm Mumsnetting all wrong.

  • no pressure OP {stares pleadingly with puppy eyes}
Justkeeprollingalong · 17/01/2020 19:38

I've just cracked a cheeky Australian Shiraz whilst I wait for the after club update 🍷

WillLokireturn · 17/01/2020 19:38

I've assumed the where are we meeting up text from other DD was about meeting up outside club before they go in. Nah don't do that - meet inside!!

Well MNers with your wine, cashews and popcorn, I've relayed a little old CF lift story of mine to keep you going til OP gets home and can update. It's only reading OPs thread that reminded me of if!!

mcmooberry · 17/01/2020 19:47

Well done OP, totally the CFs fault for putting her daughter in this position hope it all went ok and look forward to an update.

peardrops1 · 17/01/2020 19:50

I'm almost as invested in this thread as I was in the one where the OP's friend was staying in her spare room and wouldn't leave, and also the one with the alleged Barbour cost sabotage.

peardrops1 · 17/01/2020 19:50

*coat

peardrops1 · 17/01/2020 19:51

And OP, I think you've handled the situation brilliantly. Kudos.

JasonPollack · 17/01/2020 19:55

Oh no @peardrops1 don't say that. You've given me an awful sinking feeling. What if she never comes back Confused

GreenTulips · 17/01/2020 19:56

Tesco’s have Pom bears on special .... pass us a few

flouncyfanny · 17/01/2020 19:58

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RumpoleoftheBaileys · 17/01/2020 20:13

Cashew please

Scarydinosaurs · 17/01/2020 20:13

Absolutely ridiculous she opted for a taxi over a short walk.

Some people lose all perspective when they begin to feel they’re entitled to favours.

pictish · 17/01/2020 20:18

Some other people lose all perspective at the thought of having to use their legs and actually walk somewhere too.

TeetotalKoala · 17/01/2020 20:20

I'll have some Pringles 🙂

PepsiLola · 17/01/2020 20:25

I've got me a vino waiting for an update Wine

Retroflex · 17/01/2020 20:27

Having a late dinner, so sitting down with it waiting for the update from op...

YasssKween · 17/01/2020 20:27

Thank you PPs for Pringles and Pom Bears. I googled some other old favourites and they still make Nik Naks. Now I can't think about anything else.

flouncyfanny · 17/01/2020 20:32

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Figmentofimagination · 17/01/2020 20:36

Anyone for some roses or heroes left over from Christmas? Or a terry's chocolate orange? Currently stuffing my face whilst DH is at work.

flouncyfanny · 17/01/2020 20:38

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