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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
BlackCatSleeping · 17/01/2020 02:56

I think you’re taking the right tone, friendly and polite but firm. I also think you’re right not to follow up. If she comes, she comes. If not, it’s not your problem.

It’s really, really nice of you to do so much for your friend. I hope she realizes this!

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 03:44

JayAlfredPrufrock, I'm sure she has a licence, but she can't afford to buy/run a car, and it's a nightmare to park where she lives anyway.

@Bayleaf25, she's a single parent. The father isn't on the scene at all (she also doesn't get financial help from him), and no family close enough to help out either.

OP posts:
Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 03:46

Lol, WillLokireturn, I'm hoping it'll be 15:1 but reckon it'll be 5:2 as she's pretty stubborn.

OP posts:
IamtheDevilsAvocado · 17/01/2020 03:55

I reckon the 2:1...as it benefits her more once she's discovered how much a 30 min taxi journey costs!

But also a mix of the other on the side... I suspect she'll moan to you/others about being let down and you're driving any way...

Or she may just incidentally find another mug... These people often do... The queen bee helpers....
(poor her... Shes been soooo badly let down, poor lamb.....)

Some older posters may remember my CF story where a friend of a friend that I'd already helped to sweet FA thanks rang up out of the blue asking me to look after her 3 kids for 6 weeks.... As she wanted to go in a course.. Naturally she didn't wabt to lay me money for this.... Lived in a tiny one bed flat and we were in the middle of finals...

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 17/01/2020 04:03

Meant pay me any money for this.... The kids had never even met me!! ... When I immediately said no, and no I couldn't solve her problem for her, Grin, she rang me back twice the next day saying my lack of help was ruining her career..... 😂😂.
This woman... Biscuit...

I randomly discovered months later she had gone on the course... Someone else she vaguely knew TOOK LEAVE to enable this woman....
I think with my CF she was combination of very thick skinned and bullying people into submission... You ended up feeling that you were being vile by not helping..
A pal was thoroughly taken iby her for the 3 years of the degree..... She too was often taking leave to enable this woman's cheeky fuckery.....on ocassion she was even paying for this woman's groceries... This woman had far more than us.... After she'd used my pal and others for 3 years... She cut off all contact and never heard rom her again

Whiskeychaser · 17/01/2020 05:47

Didn't see that option; I now think 2:1 instead of 15:1 (as well as 5:2).

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 17/01/2020 05:48

3:1. Drama.

And 4:1. Moaning/backstabbing.

Blondebakingmumma · 17/01/2020 06:42

I’m thinking she may pull her DD out of the activity in a fit of rage.... unless her daughter kicks up a huge fuss

NotSorry · 17/01/2020 06:48

5:2

I’ll have a tenner on it please

Jokie · 17/01/2020 06:50

I think she'll do it this week and then say that DD will be there next Friday but then she'll be late next Friday to your house

pictish · 17/01/2020 07:01

She has got used to your free taxing the point where she now considers it an entitlement rather than the favour it actually is.
I think she’ll come back down to Earth and realise she’s shot herself in the foot with her token protest. It’ll cost a bomb to take a cab and she’ll back down and walk the 10 minutes to yours next week. Bet you.

Good on you for calmly sticking to your guns and not caving under pressure. Don’t waver on this one. You are in the right.

Mrsmummy90 · 17/01/2020 07:21

Hope tonight goes well x

ZenNudist · 17/01/2020 07:53

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MrsCollinssettled · 17/01/2020 07:58

Hi CF, as it is essential that we collect your dd going forward we should be able to get to you by 5.20 for our evening meal. As time is so tight no need to worry about pudding. See you later. OP

Janedoughnut · 17/01/2020 08:04

OP I'd be wary of her contacting you to say she can't get a taxi and her dd can't get to your house for six so could you come and pick her up this week. If I were you I'd be too busy to check your phone before you leave!

Fefifofaff · 17/01/2020 08:24

Big money on 5:2.

And I think your 15:1 is more like 150:1!!

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 17/01/2020 08:28

If CF doesn't want her daughter to walk 10 minutes in the dark, she could book the taxi to take her just to the OP house before 6pm, doesn't have to be all the way to the club.

fedup21 · 17/01/2020 08:30

OP I'd be wary of her contacting you to say she can't get a taxi and her dd can't get to your house for six so could you come and pick her up this week. If I were you I'd be too busy to check your phone before you leave!

Yes!!

WillLokireturn · 17/01/2020 08:32

Lol!! I'm taking all bets!!!

Anything to help OP, stand her ground and not get suckered in. I think 2:1 and 5:2 are front runners. Depends on whether Friend wants to spend £20 on a taxi tonight to make an unnecessary point

And to be frank if she does, she could have used that instead to buy OP some wine and chocolates to thank get from 2 years and more of favours and lifts!!!! So remember that!!

And we can all hope for the 15:1....

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 17/01/2020 08:39

My guess is 30 mins taxi ride will be a lot more than 20£??!

rottiemum88 · 17/01/2020 08:45

It's obvious from the length of your post about a fairly small issue that you're probably a people pleaser OP. But this woman isn't your friend, she's using you. So don't think of it as losing a friend because it doesn't seem like you are.

There's really no need to be unpleasant. A simple "no, sorry, that isn't going to work for me" will suffice. People don't have a right to dictate how others spend their time; if this arrangement continues then it's purely because you allow it to.

billy1966 · 17/01/2020 08:50

A friend of mine lived near her children's school and had to start turning her phone off for an hour before school finished, for a while, to get the message across to half a dozen mothers who assigned her "emergency number status". She was being asked to keep the children for 30-60 minutes after school multiple times as they were delayed, for a couple of weeks and had had enough of it.

One of them had a go at her one morning because she was not answering her phone! Absolutely hilarious! They weren't in the school 5 minutes and thought they could just use the nearest Mum.

My friend wasn't having any of it.😂

flouncyfanny · 17/01/2020 08:58

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holidayhelpp · 17/01/2020 09:23

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PuppyMonkey · 17/01/2020 09:24

Oh dear. I agree you’ll get a text or call shortly before 6pm saying the taxi hasn’t turned up/she forgot to book it/the cab firm spontaneously went administration and it’s too late to walk to yours now, so please come get her...

What a shame you won’t be able to get to answer your phone because you’re already driving, OP.Grin