Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

999 replies

Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 16/01/2020 20:12

Whatever happens OP, you now know she is a rude, ungrateful user.

OnTheEdgeOfTheNight · 16/01/2020 20:13

I'm pretty sure that her threatening to get a can was her throwing her toys out of the pram, and that she expected you to respond "No! Don't pay for a taxi! I'll collect your darling daughter."
She has no intention to pay for a taxi every week.
Her daughter will turn up at 6:05 to teach you a lesson.
You'll still be there at 6:05 because you really don't want to fall out with them.

OnTheEdgeOfTheNight · 16/01/2020 20:13

Can = cab

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 20:15

I've said to my dd that it's between us mums, so not to worry about it and we'll see what tomorrow brings.

I've also been told by my dd that the mum had crap few days at work, and was in a bad mood with everyone, so maybe, when she got my original texts she reacted without thinking, iykwim, and is regretting it a bit.

Guess I'll find at tomorrow evening as I'm not texting her back to ask what's going on/what she meant.
The ball is in her court, as they say. Knowing the dd's quick temper, mums originally got the same and so I expect it's stubbornness and cutting off her nose to spite her face, but I'm pretty sure she'll not be able to keep it up, as apart from anything else a cab will cost a frigging fortune!

OP posts:
Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 20:16

*obviously

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 16/01/2020 20:23

She's showing her annoyance with you by sending her DD in a taxi. Denying you the pleasure of doing your duty. LOL.

nanbread · 16/01/2020 20:28

How will it only take 10 mins in a cab to do. 90 min walking journey?? That walk must be what, 6 miles, no way can you cover 6 miles in 10 minutes in Friday night traffic!

nicknamehelp · 16/01/2020 20:28

Surely if she doesn't drive they are used to walking in the cold and have suitable clothing. Stick to your guns and just take your dd if they don't walk

fedup21 · 16/01/2020 20:30

How long a taxi journey will the daughter have? Not much fun for her-maybe the mum should have thought this through!

YouDancin · 16/01/2020 20:32

Good result

If the daughter continues to take a cab there then you could suggest that it collects your daughter on the way and you do the bringing home /return journey. That way you are both contributing a journey each. You with your time, her with her money - perfect.
Then there is no imbalance in the relationship anymore.

KidCaneGoat · 16/01/2020 20:34

Sounds like a good outcome.

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 16/01/2020 20:35

Remember at some point to get the phrase "that's not on" into a future conversation! You've handled this well.

Mummytoonlychild · 16/01/2020 20:47

Sorry place marking as im dying to see what happens tomorrow I really hope she turns up and apologise as well

RhitaGawr · 16/01/2020 20:48

You will be off out for supper with DD right after club tomorrow won't you? 😉

PepePig · 16/01/2020 20:51

Honestly, if tomorrow doesn't go well you need to stop taking her child.

At the end of the day, your time is precious. She's chosen not to learn to drive which will obviously impact on her child attending hobbies. You paid for lessons, passed the test, bought a car and pay money to fuel, insure and tax it every year. So why should she get use out of these expenses for free? Especially when she doesn't even appreciate you.

If she's arsey tell her you can no longer take her child and block out any emotional bullshit she pulls on you. If her kid wants to go so bad she can find another slave, get off her arse and learn to drive, or pay for taxis. Simple.

Ellmau · 16/01/2020 20:51

Excellent reply, @Whiskeychaser.

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 20:51

The club 10 miles from my house. Outside of the rush hour, when traffic is clear, it's roughly a 15 minute drive. It has taken 40 mins before during a particularly bad rush hour, but in normal rush hour traffic it generally takes around 25 minutes to get there (& parked).

OP posts:
InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 16/01/2020 20:58

Well done Op - stick to your guns!

Even if she had a terrible week and responded without thinking initially, she should have apologised profusely to you when the situation dawned on her - not be snappy and throw in the taxi comment.

fedup21 · 16/01/2020 21:08

The club 10 miles from my house. Outside of the rush hour, when traffic is clear, it's roughly a 15 minute drive. It has taken 40 mins before during a particularly bad rush hour, but in normal rush hour traffic it generally takes around 25 minutes to get there (& parked).

And is it the same distance from her house? A 25-40 minute cab fare won’t be cheap!

BackforGood · 16/01/2020 21:14

Excellent. Well done OP for that text.
I suspect she will soon realise that is going to cost her a fortune in paying taxis, and she will tell her dd to walk round to yours before long.

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 21:14

I can't see her apologising, she's too proud for that, but I won't be either.

I'm already feeling awkward and dreading tomorrow. Think that's the people pleaser in me!

I was awake until 4am last night worrying about this, and wondering if I'd been too harsh, and how to handle it tomorrow.

I think she's sees it as me being petty because it's only 15 mins, but that works both ways, doesn't it?
Like pp have said, why is my time less valuable than hers?
Last night, I came to the conclusion that as I'm doing the lion's share of the work (ie, the favour) they can meet me part way by coming to mine to make my day that little bit less stressful.

Atm, I'm thinking to just act normally and let her bring it up, and if she doesn't, then I won't.

I just hope that once we're face to face, I don't cave for a quiet life, which is partly why I won't be bringing it up myself as I'll feel 'on the back foot' then and end up trying to justify my position, which I shouldn't have to.

As I've said, I've no problem driving them/her home (or there, actually), but when/if I drop them off home tomorrow I will be saying: "Don't forget, if you want a lift there next week then be at mine for 6pm, otherwise I'll see you there!"

I'm not backing down on that, which although it doesn't sound like much, it is a big thing for me.

OP posts:
AnathemaPulsifer · 16/01/2020 21:18

Well done OP. Stick to your guns.

cstaff · 16/01/2020 21:26

If she gets a taxi tomorrow and you drive them home I would make a point of "not" mentioning the following week. That's up to her as she is the one causing this aggravation between you. She will be hoping you just give in to her demands. You have done so well so far. Keep it up.

pictish · 16/01/2020 21:26

Well done. I think she really did forget you were doing her a favour. Hope she’s feeling suitably humbled by your refusal to back down.

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 21:27

@fedup21, about the same, really.

However, during the rush hour, they'd have to use the same route as me, otherwise they'd be stuck in city centre traffic for a good hour or more, which would mean it's about a mile and a half further away for her.

OP posts: