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AIBU with regard to giving lifts...

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Whiskeychaser · 15/01/2020 22:37

Hi, sorry this is so long but I don't want to drip feed.

My dd and her friend, both 14 years olds, go to a club every Friday after school. My dd decided to attend this club and after about 6 weeks her friend wanted to try it out, but because her mum doesn't drive, and because it's quite far away, (about 1hr 30min walking through some not great areas) the only way she can really attend is if I drive her.

I was happy to do this as I'm taking my dd anyway, they're friends and it's a nice thing to do and so I have been doing this for almost 2 years now.

I am friends with the mum too, although we don't see that much of each other anymore as she changed jobs a year ago, and now works much longer hours.

Unfortunately, Friday has become a really busy day for me over the last year, as although I'm a sahm, I have many commitments on my time, and Friday is one that is fixed, and I can't get out of, so I'm generally not home until 5pm.

Club is 18-25 mins away by car due to traffic at that time, and club starts at 6.30pm and goes on until 8pm.

We would need to leave from my house at 6pm in order to allow enough time for the traffic jams we usually encounter.

They live about 1.5 mile away by car, but in the opposite driving direction to the club.
Walking distance is much less though as there is a short cut they can use, which would take them less than 10 minutes, and even the long way around (0.8 miles) would only take them 15 minutes according to Google.

Due to traffic at that time it's a 15 minute detour to pick them up from their house, so this means I have to leave my house at 5.45pm at the latest in order to have enough time to drive to the club.

I'm finding it increasingly stressful to get dinner, etc, sorted within the 30-40 minute time frame this realistically leaves me.

As a consequence, I'm often running a bit late leaving my house, so I may be a maximum of 10 minutes late picking them up, which leaves me even more stressed and rushing to get to the club on time, as I prefer to be there 5 minutes early.

For example, two weeks ago I picked them up (mum came that week) 10 minutes late and parked up at the club dead on 6pm, which realistically meant they were 2-3 minutes late for it by the time they entered the hall.

Over the last 2 years they've only been actually late to class a maximum of 4 times (twice in the last 12 months), but the stress I'm feeling rushing around, or cutting my stuff short in order to not be late for them is really getting to me.

I would say I'm late picking her/them up probably 4 out of every 6 times.

This varies from being a minute late picking them up to a maximum of 10 minutes late and probably averages 4 minutes, and although this only rarely results in them being late for the actual club, it stresses me out nevertheless.

If I'm not outside their house by 5.45pm, I immediately start getting texts asking where I am, which I obviously can't answer as I'm driving, and anyway stopping to reply would just make me even later! Hearing the texts pinging also stresses me out even more.

Seven or eight times over the summer, she walked up to us for short before 6pm, so that we could leave my house at 6pm and I found that so much less stressful.
I know it doesn't sound like much but that extra 15 minutes made all the difference for me. I was much less stressed and we always got there 5 minutes early every time.

Since the weather has got colder and darker, I've been picking her up from her house, and it's just not working for me, and I feel really guilty when I'm picking them up late, so I thought I'd take a leaf out of the MNer book and let them know I was having a problem. I really didn't expect there to be an issue.

In the spirit of this, I sent the mum a text yesterday afternoon and asked her to get her dd to walk up to ours for 5pm on Friday (thinking about when it gets dark), instead of me driving to get her for 5.45pm.

My dd got a text back from the dd almost immediately saying: it's fine they'd rather wait for me to pick them up as it gives them more time at home, and that they'd see me then (turns out mum is coming along too).

I then texted the mum back again saying that that didn't suit me, being late is stressing me out and I'd rather she/they walked here as I also need that extra time myself.
Mum texted me again and said she's coming on Friday too so we can catch up, but that she really doesn't want to walk to me as it is 'miserable weather' outside now, and she prefers to leave home as late as possible.
I texted back and said they didn't need to be here until 6pm then, but that I would like them to come to me in future, as it makes my life easier.

I had no reply to that text, which I sent around 8pm yesterday, until this morning when I had a text saying: 'it's not on, it's really cold and wet now and it will be dark, I'm driving anyway so it makes no difference to me, and is much easier for me, but will put them out, and so I should just pick them up as usual'.

I really don't want to fall out with the mum or cause issues for my dd, as the dd can be quite moody, but I'm pretty hurt that the mum can't see it from my point of view, especially considering I've never before asked for anything in return.

I know the mum works really long hours, and I know she worries about her dd walking in the dark, (even though she's allowed to go out in the dark at other times), but at the end of the day I'm doing them both a favour, and I've never asked for any contribution or anything in return (& wouldn't as I'm going there anyway). Even when the mum comes we take it in turns to buy a coffee, and I wouldn't expect her to pay for mine anyway (that's not why I'm helping them out).
I'm doing it because they're/we're friends, it helps them and is a nice thing to do plus we're going there anyway.

I also always drop them off at their house; I just wanted that bit of breathing space before the club.

AIBU to have asked them to come to me, and how do I handle it now?

I know what I want to say, which isn't printable, but I don't want to say something I'll later regret, and I really don't want to fall out over this, but I also don't want to be a doormat (my New Year's resolution is to be less of a people pleaser).

I've always been a people pleaser and hate saying no, so now I'm wondering if it was petty of me to expect them to come to me.

OP posts:
Drum2018 · 16/01/2020 18:50

Or..just dont go this week, so as she has to make her own arrangements home too.

Now that would be tempting!! I wouldn't mention anything about bringing her home and just take it that she'll be getting a taxi home too.

fedup21 · 16/01/2020 18:58

I thought the mum was planning to go to the activity herself this week?

I’d reply saying, ‘ok-fine. Presume you’ll get a taxi home together afterwards, then x’

fedup21 · 16/01/2020 19:00

I wouldn't mention anything about bringing her home and just take it that she'll be getting a taxi home too.

I wouldn’t go this. I think if you don’t say anything now, the daughter will just come over to you after the club has finished and get in the car which will be really awkward

Confuddledtown · 16/01/2020 19:02

I'm overly invested in this and cant wait to find out what happens tomorrow

Daftapath · 16/01/2020 19:04

I love the idea of not going to the activity tomorrow but in actual fact, I would probably continue to give the friend a lift home.

However, if there was the hint of any attitude from either of them, then I would stop doing that too.

Ihatesundays · 16/01/2020 19:04

I love a CF thread with a good conclusion.
I’ve had issues with DDs friends mum. She doesn’t work (not a SAHM - she has never worked ever). And thinks we all have magical free cars to drive her about.
She lives less than 10 minutes walk and is always trying to get me to pick up/drop off her DD from hers in my car. I won’t. I agree to meet her half way.
She also invites DD out somewhere and then later on mentions I will have to drive them all there and back.

I never had a car for years. I never made anyone go out of their way to give me lifts. It’s what made me finally get a car as I didn’t want to be reliant on other people all the time.

LittleMissMe99 · 16/01/2020 19:07

I think you YABU. I think you've thought about this way too much googling walking distance etc. If you don't want to pick her up...don't. Stop taking her. But don't ask her to walk in the dark and rain/wind to save you 15 minutes. Especially if you've been happily picking her up so far.

Drum2018 · 16/01/2020 19:09

@LittleMissMe99 are you the other kids mother? Op isn't happy to do it and doesn't have to justify it to anyone. Other parent is a complete CF, end of!

SleepWarrior · 16/01/2020 19:10

In case the other girl asks your DD, I would make sure that you tell DD that if friend wants to walk to yours and still get the lift then that's very much available. Her mum may have told her that you've dumped them in it and that's why she now has to get a taxi.

LittleMissMe99 · 16/01/2020 19:16

Scrap my last comment. I didn't read your whole comment on my phone. You are NOT being unreasonable at all. The other mum sounds rude and entitled. I hope you put her in her place!

BruceAndNosh · 16/01/2020 19:30

Make sure that your DD totally understands the new arrangement, and that she isn't to be talked into changing it by the other girl

LittleMissMe99 · 16/01/2020 19:30

Hi, no I'm not other kids Mum? I'm not sure what CF means sorry. I hadn't read the OP's full comment as I was on my phone. I don't think she's being unreasonable at all having read it!

Whiskeychaser · 16/01/2020 19:40

My dd is a bit worried it will cause issues with her friend at school tomorrow, and I've had another text saying 'we'll see you tomorrow then Smile', so I've texted back.

'If you change your mind about the cab, you know where we are. I'll be leaving promptly at 6pm.'

Tbh, I'm fine taking my dd's friend back as the time pressure is off and the rush hour is over.
I'm also fine driving her there (if she gets to my house), I just wanted her to make my life a bit easier by coming to me.

Will be interesting to see if her mum is there tomorrow or if they turn up at mine for a lift as her text doesn't make it obvious to me.

OP posts:
cstaff · 16/01/2020 19:44

I do agree with pp that you should give tomorrow a miss. If she has the nerve to question this just tell her that you had something to do but never wanted to let her dd down so this was your first chance to do whatever...I'm sure you can come up with something 🤣🤣

cstaff · 16/01/2020 19:47

@LittleMissMe99
CF is cheeky fucker

Highonpotandused · 16/01/2020 19:49

Yes I would give tomorrow a miss.

LittleMissMe99 · 16/01/2020 19:50

Ahh thank you!

Retroflex · 16/01/2020 19:51

I can't believe that despite the fact "I also have a long term disability that means I tire easily, and have limited mobility." the CF mother still tried to guilt you into picking her child up with a passive aggressive txt regarding getting a cab, rather than her precious little snowflake walking for the 10 minutes it takes to get to your house, especially as you've already said that the child walks the dog in the dark/wind/rain etc? Don't back down! I don't think she'll pay for many taxis if any before the child starts turning up at your house before you're due to leave!

CallmeAngelina · 16/01/2020 19:59

Just how was she doing you the favour by "having your dd for the weekend" after your surgery, when she was working that weekend and it was therefore your dd providing company for hers?

Also, I'm not clear what she meant by "we'll see you tomorrow then." Does that mean they're coming to yours for the lift after all? Or is she talking about still requiring you to give them a lift home?

Glitterblue · 16/01/2020 20:01

Wow what a user she is. The very least she could do would be walk her daughter to your house. Some of us don't have a choice re walking in cold, wet, windy weather! I have to walk DD to school almost 2 miles away in all weathers because DH needs the car for work.

OnTheEdgeOfTheNight · 16/01/2020 20:03

My dd is a bit worried it will cause issues with her friend at school tomorrow

The other girl has no reason to complain, and if she does, so be it. Your daughter needs to see that you can both set your own boundaries rather than be at the mercy of bullies "in case it causes issues".

Bullies only pick on people that they think are easy targets. They don't do this to people who have healthy limits.

cstaff · 16/01/2020 20:04

I don't see her getting a cab tomorrow. Sure that's only going to put her out more time wise. She will change her mind once she realises that you are sticking to your plans. If not tomorrow then definitely next week. So hold tight OP.

IndefatigableMouse · 16/01/2020 20:08

I purposely said no when a friend of mine offered to take my son (and hers) to an activity every week that started while I was at work. No way did I want to be that much trouble and I knew that while it was a kind offer there would be weeks they couldn’t manage it and then I didn’t want to upset my son or even forget to be grateful for the times they did help!

(So instead he did the same thing in another club, sometimes life makes you compromise)

She’s still a CF - no thank you for the lifts you have provided?

MrsJakeLovell · 16/01/2020 20:08

Thewomeninthemirror · 16/01/2020 20:11

Tell her to get bent!
Nobody needs friends like that!

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