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Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 3 Scene 2)

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TheMustressMhor · 13/01/2020 12:11

I am waiting with interest to find out what happens next, following on from this afternoon's talks at Sandringham.

Poor old Queen. She can't have finished the leftover turkey yet and here she is, embroiled in another crisis.

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yolofish · 13/01/2020 22:17

They seem to be under the impression that they can pop back at will for Wimbledon and Ascot and the adoring crowds will aplaud them. They are in for a big shock.

So true. They've really fucked up PR wise.

SerenDippitty · 13/01/2020 22:18

Perhaps the beginning of the end of British style monarchy and a move to the European model where only the direct line get any public money and the rest have to fend for themselves. Didn’t the King of he Netherlands have a job as a commercial airline pilot with KLM for a while?

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 13/01/2020 22:18

And I am loving the comments from Doria about the importance of being true to yourself, from the mother who left her teenage daughter in the sole care of her father for years so she could find herself. I do sometimes thing that the West Coast of the USA is another planet.

MissEliza · 13/01/2020 22:20

@Leighhalfpennysthigh you can't just say that without further explanation!

Nanna50 · 13/01/2020 22:23

I think they released the statement because that’s the way Meghan wanted it. The statement ensured that no private discussion behind closed doors could have influenced Harry.

Their minds were made up and so they have effectively held HMQ to ransom forcing her to compromise because she doesn’t want to lose her grandson.

I’m not a royalist but I think they have been hugely disrespectful to HMQ to publicly put her in the position of having to negotiate.

UndomesticHousewife · 13/01/2020 22:23

Does anyone know what the American or Canadian public think about MM?
Not the likes of Oprah etc but the people. It would be interesting to know.

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 22:23

The press issue was easily solvable.

They went out of their way to be dickheads.

kinsss · 13/01/2020 22:25

Somehow or other I think "The Firm" is bricking it now. The days are really numbered.

Respect is only given to the Queen in fairness. The rest of them, not so much.

Horsemad · 13/01/2020 22:25

I really doubt Prince Philip removed himself to avoid PH; he apparently lives separately from the Big House in a 'cottage' on the estate.
Could be coincidence, who knows...?

Re the statement issued - I don't see that the outcome is any different from what was originally touted, so not really sure why we've had all the hoo ha surrounding it.
H&M have got what they wanted; it appears the RF has capitulated. 🙄

Imo, the whole marriage malarkey was all part of MM's great plan and PH has been well and truly played.

SeperatedSwans · 13/01/2020 22:25

I don't buy in to William has had an affair, bit if he has, and Kate has forgiven him or whatever she has decided to do. That's her decision. She's hardly held at knifepoint to go along with a marriage. She's not a stupid woman.

And if people want to say well how come Will and Kate's marriage isn't under speculation constantly in the press, it's because they keep quiet and don't make outlandish Instagram posts about their future aspirations and put their life on a global platform to be scrutinised by choice.

They also behave in a manor that does not invite intrusion. They have struck a fair balance with the press and the press in return have given them privacy at university, privacy in Anglesey, and then they stepped confidently after many years of courtship in to a public wedding and a public life, and again maintain a fair balance with the press. They understand the concept of they are public figures with public interest part funded by the public so they respect the public and give the public enough to keep them happy.

Harry and Meghan dated, got married had a baby, got angry, stamped their feet, ran away all in 2 years. They played the press, wanted the attention when it suited them and told it to fack off when they didn't. They politely asked for 6 weeks of privacy in Canada, guess what they got 6 weeks of privacy. Funny isn't it when you ask politely for something people are more willing to accept your request. When you scream and shout about it they think the bear's been poked and it's about to go off on one let's capture it.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 13/01/2020 22:26

And I am loving the comments from Doria about the importance of being true to yourself, from the mother who left her teenage daughter in the sole care of her father for years so she could find herself. I do sometimes thing that the West Coast of the USA is another planet.

Was she finding herself? I read differently although I don't know if it's true and won't repeat it here.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 13/01/2020 22:27

I may have read the same @CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook but didn't dare post it...

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 22:27

People slagging her off about her messy hair and clinging on to him, fair enough.

She has taken on a role where she is representing the British Royal Family and I don’t think it’s unacceptable to expect her to look professional and behave in a professional manner.

Snugglepiggy · 13/01/2020 22:27

A mention of Helen Mirren a few posts back made me chuckle. She has just posted on Instagram some great photos of a weekend in Bradford.Eating curry and going to the pantomime. Obviously Hand M couldn't just pop up north for an impromptu visit but I doubt MM will now ever get to know how friendly and warm the majority of Brits can be .Yes certainly she had some negstive press but I still believe at the time of the wedding there was a huge amount of goodwill towards her and Harry. And they've squandered it.

annielouise · 13/01/2020 22:27

I think Harry convinced the rest of the RF that marrying someone he hadn't known that long was a good idea, and probably ignored their urge to be cautious. PC could hardly say no after not being allowed to marry the woman of his dreams.

I think Harry fell for her and also saw in her an opportunity for them to both create a niche role together alongside his brother and Kate. They might not end up king and queen but could have 'the popular vote' so to speak by being the people's prince of hearts, like his mother. He really wanted to be popular and for it to continue, maybe not as much as Meghan wanted it, and he saw this as the way to do it.

Problem was Meghan is very American which is all very well and good but her style didn't suit the UK public. We didn't want to be lectured to, which Harry got in on too, or put her on a pedestal. I think we like the RF to be low key, not gussy, attention seeking etc. By and large most ignore them. What we don't want is more scandal and to learn of their excesses. The whole point of them surely is they should be beyond reproach at the very least, why have them if they're not, if they're as fallible as the rest of us. They've turned into a soap of late.

The other problem was her manner - the bits of the engagement interview I saw were nauseating. She thinks though that's how you 'act' adoring and in love, like a Hallmark romance. Same with the mannerisms, the photo ops, the body language. It turned people off - we didn't think her genuine. She came over as acting and people took against her and them when the lecturing came on top of it.

The other big problem was what she did to her dad. She'd praised him a number of times on the Tig, how wonderful he was. He didn't deserve to be cut out like that. Harry never even bloody met him! That is shocking for the RF, let alone anyone else. I don't think he was even coming. The week before the wedding he didn't have a suit. He's given interviews yes but because he's desperate and in pain.

Another things was the wedding. I don't have a big family. I and most others would say can we please have a quiet low-key wedding so that is not highlighted. Even though he's the prince there was no reason for the big do they had with her in a white dress being walked down the aisle by her father in law! She could not see how bad that looked. She thought perhaps it would make people feel sorry for her. I thought the optics, which she is all too aware of but continually got wrong, were off - bad move.

I think her mother is lovely. If Meghan had come over more like her mother she would have had an easier ride. I also think PC in particular welcomed her as did the queen by taking her on that appointment - giving her acceptance in public. I think they did it for Harry's sake of course to give it every opportunity to work as they knew the fallout would be terrible.

Problem is now Harry invested so much in this working he must be gutted to find we don't all love her and think he's turned into a pompous, no-it-all arse. Meghan knows she won't crack the UK market so gave up quickly - why? Because I don't think she truly loves Harry, but that he was an opportunity that went tits up basically so she cut her losses.

Of course, they'll play the victims - of racism, sexism, this'ism, that'ism. I doubt they'll split right now. She hasn't achieved what I think is her aim - global standing and lots of money. She needs the title etc and no more scandal for a bit. Let's see what happens.

I hope anyone thinking of doing business with her and him see what they are truly like and think twice. Harry has to go along with it or he loses Archie. Poor kid. Perhaps he'll come to the UK for boarding school.

One thing I always wondered was if they took Frogmore as it is near Heathrow so convenient to slip in and out of the UK without people knowing if they use private jet while if they'd stayed at KP they might have been seen coming and going. I always wondered if it was a reason as they planned to not be in the UK that much ages ago.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 13/01/2020 22:28

@CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook

Post and be damned, it will get deleted but at least a few of us will get to read it. I have always wondered what the real story is.

MrsBrentford · 13/01/2020 22:32

@CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook

Post ..

SirVixofVixHall · 13/01/2020 22:33

I wonder too. What does “finding yourself” even mean. Meghan lived with her father for how long, a decade ?

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 13/01/2020 22:33

I've been watching videos of them on walkabouts today and I have to say Harry always looked like he was having a great time and really enjoying himself. He looked properly into it, especially the military events. Also remember one of those building project shows where one week they focussed on housing for disabled military veterans. He and William turned up and stayed the whole day turning their hands to anything that was asked of them. So enthusiastic and into it. I do think Harry will miss it. I don't think he hates us. I think he just believes he does at the minute.

CilantroChili · 13/01/2020 22:34

And branding the British Public as racist

The members of the British public that write all that bile on the D Fail, those Piers Morgan followers are extremely vocal and not small in number

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/01/2020 22:36

cake the story's quite easily available if you care to look for it, but I agree with Catherine it's best not to post it here

In today's world of everybody being able to dig for everything I'm pretty confident the media know the exact circumstances too - and I'm even more confident they'll print them when they feel the time's right

Andylion · 13/01/2020 22:39

They’ve swapped being part of history for Disney voiceovers and Netflix documentaries.

On the contrary, I think they have ensured that they will be in the history books.

FromEden · 13/01/2020 22:40

Does anyone know what the American or Canadian public think about MM?

Im in the US. Obviously this is just one person but out to lunch the other day and on hearing my husband's british accent, our server asked what we think about the whole thing. According to her MM is controlling harry. Oh and a friend of mine that has talked about her before also doesn't like her. Both of these people are black btw so highly doubt there is racism at play in their opinions.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 13/01/2020 22:42

Uh uh no. MN are happy to throw posters under the bus...but I will say one needs plenty of time to find oneself.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 13/01/2020 22:48

Well I've googled around and found no doubt what others found before me. It would explain why that when the Ragland side of the family sold their story and photos that it stops when Meghan looks quite young. If true it also shows how restrained the press have been, I'm not sure suing them is a good move.