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William's alleged behaviour to blame?

297 replies

lemonoilburner · 12/01/2020 20:25

For Harry's departure , as suggested?
Is it all rumour or a genuine possibility in
Your opinion?
Surely William's personal life did not offend Harry so much that he would actually step back from his role and life in the UK?

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mathanxiety · 13/01/2020 04:11

@minesagin37 you can hide threads on the phone app.

NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 13/01/2020 08:07

@MadCattery
Anyway, from over here it sounds like the Monday phone call is to discuss tax implications of a move, just the business end.
Wrong. Firstly, the meeting today is not by phone call. The Queen, Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince Harry will physically attend a meeting at Sandringham. It is only The Duchess of Sussex who will need to dial in to the meeting.

It isn't just about tax. It is about funding, security and their royal roles and, yes, the various options will have tax implications.

Perhaps it hasn't been correctly reported over there, across the pond.

I think, from what I've heard, that the Queen may step down and hand it to William anyway. Just my humble opinion, from as far outside looking in as one can get.
Which is it - is it what you've heard or is it your humble opinion?

If the Queen was to decide to relinquish her position then, under the common law of our country, Prince Charles will become King. The only way Prince Charles will not become King is if he dies before The Queen or if he decided to abdicate.

glittercats · 13/01/2020 08:25

I think this could well spell the end of the monarchy. The Queen and D of E are so elderly now. Even Charles is over 70 and he’s so wishy-washy nobody gives a hoot really about him or Camilla. Andrew will probably get convicted very soon and that will be the final nail in the coffin. No wonder Harry is buggering off - who wouldn’t with a relative like that while the rest of them do their best to deflect and maintain the facade? He’s probably fed up if the hypocrisy. If William has had an affair, I feel sorry for the kids. Probably it will come out sooner or later. Basically that family are all that’s left. Who else is there? That loon Edward or Eugenia and the other one. Grim prospects. Ultimately, Andrew has ruined the monarchy with that diabolical interview.

LaurieMarlow · 13/01/2020 08:29

It screamed ‘we didn’t like Kate the pauper either but at least she’s not black”.

Lol, that’s probably it in a nutshell.

phpolly · 13/01/2020 08:53

eaglejulesk you do realise that international data privacy laws mean that material widely published elsewhere never reaches the UK??

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 09:58

William's affair was very widely reported abroad. And there are rumours that at least one British newspaper who was going to publish about the affair were given a legal warning. We have some of the strictest libel laws in the world.

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 09:59

Also laughing at the - Rose went to a church service at the same time as Kate so could not possibly be having an affair.
Public appearances are everything for the Royal Family.

LakieLady · 13/01/2020 10:06

I think having a big family bust up is probably the most normal thing that fucked up band of entitled over privileged misfits has done for a very long time.

Grin This made me lol, @viques, and I agree entirely.

TheYearOfTheDog · 13/01/2020 10:08

Yes that's rose and her husband's patch.

Wingedserpentfliesbynight · 13/01/2020 10:10

I don't think that's so far fetched, older brother bossing sibling around. Plus this one is the future King, it must be infuriating to be told what to do by your grandmother and brother all the time.
Princess Margaret didn't get to marry who she wanted to because her sister wouldn't let her don't forget...

ClareBlue · 13/01/2020 10:25

Who are these people and why do we care?

catinb0oots · 13/01/2020 10:28

@clareblue why come on the thread? Confused

LakieLady · 13/01/2020 10:33

*Oh FFS!!! Nicole Cliff started the rumour about William,she admitted it.

Thought the entire world knew this by now,except for a few saddos on MN,who live a fantasy life!!!*

Funily enough, none of this has been in The Guardian or the New Statesman, my regular reads. or my occasional dip into the Telegraph (l like to keep on eye on what the right wing are up to). Nothing "fantasy" about that.

Imo, all this is nothing but the modern-day equivalent of bread and circuses, designed to distract the lumpenproles from how they're being shafted.

Anyway, good luck to them, whatever they decide to do. As long as it doesn't cost the UK any money.

ClareBlue · 13/01/2020 10:34

Tounge in cheek. Meaning we do not know them everything based on what we read that could or could not be true and why is it important to speculate about it.

Genevieva · 13/01/2020 10:37

Karen, if there was any substance to that story then it could have been published because there would be a valid case for saying it is in the public interest. There is no evidence to support it, so there is no valid reason for publishing it and tarnishing someone's reputation. All the evidence suggests otherwise. You really need to stop spouting the same old nonsense. You don't have anything new or insightful to say on the subject and what you are doing is defamatory.

LakieLady · 13/01/2020 10:40

*I don’t understand the attention and press coverage this has got when Prince Andrew has been busy swanning around with a convicted pedo!
*

Quite! If they were leaving the UK because they were appalled by granny appearing to stand by the uncle who seems to see no wrong in being a sex trafficker's friend and possibly an abuser of that man's victims, I'd say well done them for having some bloody principles.

Ofthread · 13/01/2020 10:47

Yes, exactly. Wish Piers Morgan could get his knickers in such an epic twist about the Andrew debacle. But of course, that wouldn't fit with his royalist, sexist, potentially racist worldview.

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:52

The rumours about William's affair will not be published in UK press until there is court evidence proof. The British press knew about Charles affair with Camilla for a long time before they published it. But it was not until they had phone calls and letters that they published it. Our libel laws are the toughest in the world.

karencantobe · 13/01/2020 10:55

@Genevieva As I said it will not be published until there is evidence that would stand up in a court. You don't understand the laws of libel. Me posting my thoughts on MN are not libellous.

There is a very long history of all the foreign press publishing stories about our RF scandals with nothing being reported here until years later. There are many many examples of this.

Helendee · 13/01/2020 10:55

Harry didn’t do MM any favours by allegedly telling staff that “ What Meghan wants, Meghan gets”.
How pompous is that!

Genevieva · 13/01/2020 10:59

I do and I didn't suggest they were were. It doesn't change the fact that what you are writing, over and over again, is defamatory. It has an every day meaning, not just a legalistic one. Social media can be like road rage - the anonymity and distance makes some people lose their humanity.

Cohle · 13/01/2020 11:00

Me posting my thoughts on MN are not libellous.

Can you explain why you believe that to be the case karencantobe?

LakieLady · 13/01/2020 11:01

Yes if that’s the aim it’s going rather well, but I think the tide will turn and more and more people will start to ask what the point of the RF are

That's what I'm hoping. With a bit of luck, people will start to realise what a ludicrous anachronism this kind of monarchy is in the 21st century, and that these people are no better than any of the rest of the population.

If we must have a monarchy, it shouldn't extend to nieces, nephews etc of the current monarch, but should be pared right down after Betty Battenberg goes. No more massive public weddings, no more state funerals, no more swanning about on royal planes or royal trains or royal bloody barges.

It should be more like the Belgian monarchy, where the king went to a state school, or the Dutch, where the king only has a personal fortune of about £50m, a fraction of what William and Harry are worth even now, before they inherit from their father.

UYScuti · 13/01/2020 11:02

This is all a performance designed to distract attention from the paedophile prince

LakieLady · 13/01/2020 11:06

There certainly seems to be a rift formed between William and Harry though

Hardly unusual though, is it, for two siblings to become distant if their wives are very different personalities with different backgrounds, interests and attitudes?

My DP has very little to do with one of his sisters, because she married an obnoxious, pig-ignorant racist.

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