William's alleged behaviour to blame?

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For Harry's departure , as suggested?
Is it all rumour or a genuine possibility in
Your opinion?
Surely William's personal life did not offend Harry so much that he would actually step back from his role and life in the UK?

The press (and some of the public) are just thoroughly enjoying vilifying Harry and Meghan, partly because she is American and mixed race.

I'm no particular royalist, but the press hounded Diana, because she was seen as public property, and Harry knows this, he's lived with this all his life. They're now doing the same to his wife. I'm so unsurprised that he wants out, at least partially.

The amount of threads on MN should give you some clue as to the level of public interest

That's rarely representative of the public at large.

12 million MN threads, and I've heard ONE person mention it out in the real world. It's really not a big deal to many people, certainly in my circles, beyond a vague, 'wish them well, then.'

It's quite amusing that the posters claiming Meghan is XYZ and talking about her motivations and ambitions with the air of someone who knows her personally are the same posters who insist William couldn't possibly have had an affair and that's its all made up by the nasty tabloids. Yet everything those tabloids print about Meghan is to be believed

Yep ^^

It's all rather selective, isn't it?

I have seen posts on face book about it, and not from people who are royalists. I disagree strongly that it is only people on MN interested in it. There is a lot of interest.

It's really not a big deal to many people, certainly in my circles, beyond a vague, 'wish them well, then.'

Well you must move in more rarified circles than me, it's practically all i've heard about all weekend, from every age group in my circle and from overhearing other people's conversations out and about. There is massive interest.

I have seen posts on face book about it, and not from people who are royalists. I disagree strongly that it is only people on MN interested in it. There is a lot of interest

Ah. Facebook.

I'm sure there's plenty of interest in pockets of the internet and on certain websites. Just not in the real world that I've encountered since it happened. But then, discussing the royal family isn't really something I ever do with friends or through work.

I haven't met a real-life person who cares, in other words. Probably because it's not a big deal to most people.

I suppose a big deal is potentially different to, people being interested. I don't know anyone losing sleep over this or worrying about it for example.

it's practically all i've heard about all weekend, from every age group in my circle and from overhearing other people's conversations out and about

Wow [grin. That's quite something. And literally the polar opposite to my experience. There we go then.

Everyone I've spoken to this weekend is talking about Iran, and the weather.

@NeckPainChairSearch This is friends on fb, not a rarefied corner of the internet. Just ordinary people who have never shown much interest in the royal family since the tampon story.
I think there is a lot more interest in this story than you realise.

People are always talking about the weather.

but the press hounded Diana, because she was seen as public property, and Harry knows this, he's lived with this all his life

That's true but it's also true that Diana wanted media attention, trouble is it's not something you can control, turn off and on, doesn't work like that.

Harry should have known better because, also true, he's grown up with it but he and Meghan have fallen straight into the same trap.

Indeed, the weather is more interesting than Harry & Meghan.

The weather is not the boring topic it once was though - I have relatives holidaying in the US affected by storms & tornadoes.

I think there is a lot more interest in this story than you realise

Only with certain people, it seems. Not with my social group or co workers. It's not a crisis and no one is affected. What is there to discuss other than tabloid gossip and rumors about complete strangers?

Agree with a pp - I've heard/had any number of convos about Iran, Trump, the NHS and Brexit, but no one is interested in the royal family. Not before Meghan, and not since.

I wonder if The Crown by raising interest in the RF has also meant that this episode has had more interest?
It is constitutionally significant.

So loftily uninterested, and yet posting away like a good un' on a thread all about M&H. How very strange...

I have always liked having a RF in our Country. Granted, I agree that it is too large and needs cutting down, but I'm personally all for the RF.

Now, it may have more to do with my state of mind at the moment and I recognise that I am overly-invested in the whole situation but I think the problem with what is happening isn't about PH and MM choosing not to become part of the RF but the fact that they want to cherry-pick what they do and don't do AND have the freedom to keep all the perks of the RF that they wish to keep. Also, the timing and manner of the "leak" about their proposition leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

I keep reading that PH is so concerned about MM state of mind, that things need to be acted upon immediately. I really don't understand why she bothered returning to the UK with PH - she never intended staying long, that much is clear by the fact that Archie was left in Canada. Again, there have been plenty of comments about PH mental state of mind - if my DH was about to have a huge confrontation with either his employers or his family (never mind both), I would want to be beside him to give him support and to help him. Rightly or wrongly, I feel that MM has got herself, Archie and the family dogs right where she wants to be and if PH wants any part of that, he needs to get things sorted and go and join them. Until things are sorted, she is keeping her distance.

Hopefully, by the end of the week, the whole situation will be resolved and a suitable solution will have been found. I can't help but think of Princess Anne and her family - she was in the same position PH is now in and she got on with life, made her own decisions and, from what I can make out, both her and her family are happy with their lives and popular in their own right.

trouble is it's not something you can control, turn off and on, doesn't work like that.

Well it's not, because of the way the paparazzi behaves - doesn't mean it's what should happen, or right. Most reasonably intelligent people agree that the right to a certain amount of privacy is a human right.

So loftily uninterested, and yet posting away like a good un' on a thread all about M&H. How very strange...

Oh don't be silly. Why the 'loftily' stuff? It's just a forum thread and we're all whiling away time.

I live across the pond, as far as possible from UK, Canada or California (Florida) and have very little interest in this. I want to point out that I know Yoko Ono was blamed for the break up of the Beatles, but maybe it's what John Lennon wanted and having the woman he loved support him in his decision helped him make the move. Maybe this is what Harry always wanted? If not, isn't he an adult and capable of deciding what he'd like to do? I think any of us who have married know that decisions are usually joint, for the better of the marriage. If the monarchy can survive the Charles and Camilla thing, and the Prince Andrew thing, it should be able to survive this. Anyway, from over here it sounds like the Monday phone call is to discuss tax implications of a move, just the business end. I think, from what I've heard, that the Queen may step down and hand it to William anyway. Just my humble opinion, from as far outside looking in as one can get.

Strange the subjects you mention. Everyone was talking about Iran initially, but that has gone quiet now amongst people I know.
The number one current affair thing people I know are talking about was not even mentioned by you and that is what is happening in Australia. That is mentioned more than anything else.

And yes the RF is being talked about. So I think a lot of people were taken aback by the RF putting out that statement - I think they said something like they were hurt and distressed. And I have heard the phrase about the RF washing their dirty linen in public a number of times.

I too think it is strange if you are not interested in this and no one you know is talking about it, but you still decide to post on a thread about it.

I too think it is strange if you are not interested in this and no one you know is talking about it, but you still decide to post on a thread about it

Because saying that there are lots of people who DON'T think it's a big deal is just as valid. Otherwise, it just becomes another MM bashing thread, and some balance - and a different POV - is usually a good thing.

I think that his relationship with Megan has just exposed him to a different way of being in a family

Yeah, who needs family. Ghost the lot of them because they all hate you.

Yeah I just came on to stick up for Harry & Meghan a bit - so many people want to stick the boot in it seems. I've said why in my previous posts.

I don't see much MM bashing here. I think a lot of the bashing is fuelled by racism. I have no idea if MM is a nice person or not, but she does not deserve the vitriol that has been levelled at her.

Andrew deserves everything he gets though. And William probably did have an affair.

Funny how it is always the women in the RF that get the most vitriol aimed at them.