Harry and Meghan Resigning Act Three

[TheMustressMhor]

...Scene One?

I think we probably do need a third thread.

MM was not and is not a Hollywood actress. Grace Kelly was a huge star, much greater talent and success which probably would have continued for a decade or two or even more. She was also much younger than MM, had greater wealth and influence and power than MM and dated plenty of wealthy and powerful people. Yet she gave it all up for Rainier. She didn't need his status or money.

Yeah she looked fairly normal to me too.

They also used the word "ashen". Well she's in her 90s, you're never ruddy cheeked at that age.

That said, her personality is well known. And she probably is both sombre and sorrowful and steely. On the one hand, it's far from her first rodeo. She's weathered countless PR disasters in the past 70 years.

On the other hand, he is her grandson and she always seemed fond of him. And fairly indulgent. So it would be very disappointing that he's become so negative about his own family.

I mean, MM could claim her father was a narc, and emotionally abusive.

But yeah, Harry lost his mother but by all accounts his father is sentimental and sensitive and has been flexible towards Harry's wishes in the past couple of decades. His grandmother may not be affectionate but she has been again, fairly flexible and pleasant to him. His grandfather liked him, his brother loved him, his sister in law loved him.

To act the victim is a bit much, he's had a lot of affection and support in his own family.

There is a lot of misogyny in most of these comments about MM. Blaming the woman for everything. Harry is an adult male living a privileged lifestyle. I find it pathetic that MM is painted as the master manipulator.

And yes many comments I have seen about MM are clearly racist no matter how much denial is spouted.

If you are not a woman of colour you don't get to decide what's is racist when directed at a woman of colour end of . The ignorance astounds me.

Sorry! 😂
Of course the Queen wouldn't be going to mass! I meant to write church!

All these theories saying "this is all to divert from the Prince Andrew scandal" . . . well it could be the other way round, eg, Harry now has the card of "well if you chuck me out of the line of succession, that means that "the Spare" is once again Andrew" to play.

Like everyone else on this thread I do not personally know any of the individuals involved

But, this is my take on a possible scenario?

MM is an engaging individual, with ambition and confidence, who PH fell in love with. He was very vocal about including her in his family and made reference to her fractured family very openly.

RF seemed to take to her (PC appeared genuinely proud to walk her down the aisle etc.) And given her lack of family ties across the pond they perhaps thought that the Sussex family would be securely RF focused.

But, perhaps MM really had no idea of what being in the RF would be like and thought she would be able to make changes, 'modernise' etc.

Perhaps PW had an idea of just how difficult it would be for MM because he'd seen what Kate had to go through and realised that MM was ill prepared. Perhaps he could tell that there could be a clash of approaches. Perhaps he was concerned that PH hadn't thought it all through and spoke to PH which resulted in the falling out and perhaps an even greater detirmination by them to "make a difference".

PH is besotted and can't understand that not everyone in his family will feel the same, so gets more and more frustrated.

That, together with his understandable hatred of the press and some genuinely appalling press coverage, has tipped him over the edge.

He feels rejected by his family, he feels that his wife has been disrespected, he feels undermined by his brother and family because they haven't embraced their vision.

But, instead of talking, working things through etc the Sussexes have decided to push their own agenda anyway. BUT, their agenda is dependent on being rooted in the RF

So, they want to reject some of the constraints of the RF by not being "senior members" but retain a great many advantages by setting up their new venture with "royal" firmly in the title.

It feels to many as if they joined the firm, told the board of directors how they could do it better, and when tbe board didn't immediately acquiesce, they resigned but took the name of the company and the client list with them ...

It feels impulsive and immature, but also disrespectful.

It leaves many people wondering if there couldn't have been a better way of achieving their goal. Or, of being more "true" to their stated aim of giving Archie a more 'normal' upbringing.

On the one hand, it's far from her first rodeo...

The80sweregreat

does anyone genuinely believe she wants to step back to avoid the attention?
It seems to the opposite.
PH is off dealing with the RF fallout and MM is uploading her halo on Instagram.

@The80sweregreat I thought that too about the headlines! But I guess, "Entirely normal looking queen drives car" isn't so catchy...

No one seemed to give a shit about him being isolated from his maternal grandmother though

He isn’t though, is he? She was at the christening, in the official photographs, and they have just spent 6 weeks over the holidays in close proximity to her to spend time with her over his first Christmas. She has been invited to RF gatherings, was at Frogmore around the birth, and Harry and Meghan could easily afford to have flown her over whenever.

Much easier to fly one person over than to fly an entire family. Mostly though, Dora knew what was happening and there’s no emotional isolation. Harry on the other hand has now caused HUGE emotional isolation for the three of them due to this debacle and the massive disrespect shown to the Queen and the public.

I just think it's all a bit sad but families fall out all the time and then reconcile.
I'd be upset if any of my family were involved in scandals or dodgy dealings : the Prince Andrew revaluations have never gone away : it could have been a catalyst or all this might have happened anyway. Who knows?

Why did Grace Kelly marry Rainer then? Was the life of a princess with someone she didn't love so much more appealing than a gradually fading stardom?
I think possibly yes. its the same kind of thing: American actress meets European Prince. Thinks its all romantic and lovely and ends up trapped in a guilded cage. They didnt have a very happy marriage at all by all accounts and she was by then, trapped until her untimely death. But there have been other European Royals who have married actresses etc, I think. Maybe the problem is that our Royals are so trapped in the past ( maybe because the Queen is so old and has been there so long) that they havent changed. Other Royal Families arent nearly so ridiculous and anachronistic and surrounded by so may sycophants and hangers on.

I’d bloody love the life of a princess. Imagine if you had separate wings of a house and barely had to see the prince!

Grace Kelly wanted to get back to acting though I think?

Really not important in the grand scheme of things but why didn't Harry approach the Disney exec afterwards? With a private call? Why do it there, very odd.

But then I think he's a drip and she's fame hungry

More things that puzzle me. William's attributed statement that he and his brother are 'separate entities now'. Did he really never see before the gulf in their positions, with him being heir, even though they are brothers? It's very oddly put.

Princess Michael and the black a moor brooch - with hindsight, did no one have the nerve to tell her she would have to take it off if she intended to come into the event? Did no one realise at the time how it would look?

I'd love it too. I wouldn't mind a bit having to open a community centre in the West Midlands in the rain. I'd be swathed in cashmere with my assistant at my elbow! Going back home on a helicopter where my kitchen staff can serve up buttered toast on a tray whilst I watch Strictly. Bliss!!!

Grace Kelly ‘gave it all up’ to marry a very wealthy PRINCE, as guided by her mother, not Joe Shmoe the plumber.

I stand corrected, MM was a wannabe Hollywood actress. Better?

It's not really strange. Charles and Andrew were pretty tight back in the Di 'n Fergie days.

There's lots of precedent for the 2nd son finding a niche and staying close. And it was imagined that he had found his niche, with the Invinctus Games and Sentebale and stuff. And of course they were in a Foundation as a trio. All doing their own pet projects, but all pulling together.

MM was not in Grace Kelly’s league.

And I don't think anyone had a bloody clue Princess M would turn up in that brooch. Probably the first they saw of it was when she sailed through the door. And by that stage the damage was done from getting snapped in the car!

By all accounts the Kents live fairly seperately now, they don't go to Sandringham at Christmas anymore, haven't for years. So the RF might realistically not see her except once or twice a year.

Emily Thornberry said PH had served 20 years in the military when talking about who should pay for their security now. Thats not right is it? surely he is not old enough.

Didn't realise that Princess Michael was a divorcee when she married into RF

Yes it's important Archie sees Megan's mum. But she could move over to the UK or at least spend time here. It's not like they can't afford to have her here. It doesn't seem Megan has a good relationship with her dad or siblings.

Archie living in America means he's no longer going to see c&c his great grandma and grandad, his grandma and grandad. His uncle William and auntie Kate, George Charlotte and Louis, Andrew and his daughters, Edward and his family. Zara and her husband and kids. Zara's parents as well and brother and his children. That is a big family unit to no longer see. Over here they have all the protection and safety and protocols in place. I just think it's a massive step. It just seems as though he has some sort of hatred towards his family at the moment. I do get it in places that he's been through a lot. But now he's put all this in the public eye he can't really go back. Maybe when he speaks to his family tomorrow he might realise he's rushed into it all.

No he hasn't got 20 years, definitely not.